Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks From: [910252 m] at [dragon.acadiau.ca] (Dwayne MacKinnon) Subject: The X-Relationships List v2.1 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:55:59 GMT Well, Here, with numerous corrections and additions, is the latest version of the X-Relationships list. My thanks to all who wrote and posted. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. DMK - Keeper of the Alpha Flight flame. Patron Saint of Flame-Keeping, the Church of X-Books -- "This is starting to get embarassing..." - Puck, X-Factor #116 Newsfeed is back!! Post all you like!! Of course, email is fun too.... Dwayne MacKinnon My opinions are my own, [910252 m] at [dragon.acadiau.ca] never those of my employer. ********************The X-Men Relationships List v2.1******************** -------------------------------------------- Successful Relationships (so far, at least.) -------------------------------------------- Scott Summers & Jean Grey (Summers?Grey-Summers? :) [Cyclops] [Phoenix] {The quintessential mutant couple. Now happily married for at least ten years, having been psychically transplanted into future time-line host bodies for about that long.} Warren Worthington III & Betsy Braddock [Angel] [Psylocke] {A new addition to the list. A young relationship, but one that shows promise.} Nathan Christopher Charles Summers Askani'son & Beatrice (?) [Cable] [Domino] {Currently dating, but they still won't admit how much they care. Ah well... give 'em time. Progress was made in Israel... :)} Kurt Wagner & Amanda Sefton [Nightcrawler] [Daytripper] {See the connection between the two code-names? :-) Nice to see these two back together.} Brian Braddock & Meggan [Brittanic] {Longest-standing British mutant/non-mutant couple. :-)} Longshot & Alison Blaire [Dazzler] {Currently on Mojoworld. Alison is apparently not thrilled at being empress, but I haven't seen enough to put this in "Under Major Strain."} Pietro Maximoff & Crystal [Quicksilver] {Currently trying to make their relationship work over in the Avengers' corner of the Marvel Universe.} Katherine "Kitty" Pryde & Peter Wisdom [Shadowcat] {It's official, they're together. Pete's already had some rough spots over this: first Nightcrawler & Brian threaten him and then Piotr Rasputin goes into jealous rage mode. One hopes the rest of the relationship will not be so rough (physically, at least.)} ---------------------------------------------------- Under major strain dept. ---------------------------------------------------- Alex Summers & Lorna Dane [Havok] [Polaris] {The longest lasting mutant couple if you, like some, believe Jean Grey is dead on the moon. Unfortunately, Alex has just been kidnapped, and the kidnappers are making it look like he ran out on Lorna and the team...} Sam Guthrie & Tabitha Smith {Although still officially together, Sam's new life as an X-man seems to be driving them apart.} Major Chirstopher Summers & Hepzibah [Corsair] {This relationship has been under strain since an old Starjammers guest appearance in the Avengers, and Corina Bornak tells me there's more strain in the current Starjammers LS.} ---------------------------------------------------- *LONG*-distance, but apparently still ticking, dept. ---------------------------------------------------- Sean Cassidy & Moira MacTaggert [Banshee] {He's currently in Massachusettes, she's on Muir Isle. But comments in the "X-Force goes to the Massachusettes Academy" issue would make it seem the two are still in a relationship. Also, the two have told each other they still ove each other.} Charles Xavier & Empress Lilandra [Professor X] {The ultimate in long-distance romances, but hey, what's a few light years? Although under some serious strain after the Kree-Sh'iar War, the two appparently patched their differences when it looked like the Universe was going to be destroyed a while back.} Ororo Monroe & Forge [Storm] {This on-again off-again couple is, at last I heard, in the on-again mode. Note that Forge's Washington duties do keep the two apart quite a bit. However, trouble looms; see the "Potential comebacks" section.} ---------------------------- Purely potential, ltd. ---------------------------- James Proudstar & Theresa O'Rourke [Warpath] [Siryn] {I'd really like this to happen... if only because Jimmy deserves to have SOMETHING go right in his life.} Jonothon Starsmore & Paige Guthrie [Chamber] [Husk] {Jono's interested. So is Paige. But it looks like we might be travelling the traditional x-angst route....} Angelo Espinoza & Paige Guthrie [Skin] {Paige & Angelo had some interesting banter, loaded with innuendo, back in #3. It looks like it may be put aside for this new Paige-Jonno situation, but who can say?} Sean Cassidy & Emma Frost [The White Queen] {After spending time in Sean's head in Gen X #10-11 Emma seems rather intrigued. And Sean is properly grateful for her help in saving his life. So, there is potential here, despite Sean & Moira saying they still love each other in Gen X '95.} ----------------------------- Potential, but never quite... ----------------------------- Scott Summers & Lee Forrester {During the time after Jean was believed dead on the moon, Scott hired onto a fishing boat and became rather close to the beautiful skipper. However, nothing really happened... the loss of Jean was too fresh.} Logan & Jean Grey [Wolverine] {Loads of potential, not to mention sexual tension, but except for a hot kiss or two, it never went anywheres.} Logan & Narya [Snowbird] {Claremont set up some chemistry in Alpha's second appearance, but it never went anywhere. Note, however, how upset Wolvie was when Snowbird was slowly dying in the X-Men and Alpha Flight LS...} Logan & Yukio {Some more potential, mostly on the sexual tension side.} Longshot & Rogue {Back in the X-Men's Aussie days, Claremont set up a triangle between Rogue, Longshot and Dazzler. Dazz won. However, Longshot WAS interested; being a bit alien he saw nothing wrong with loving them both.} Rogue & Cody {Potential... a bit of puppy love. But those damn mutant powers.... myself, I really wish they had left it at the "temporary knockout" instead of this coma nonsense...} Warren Wothington III & Alison Blaire {Back in the old days, when Alison had her own book, Warren pursued her for a time. The two dated a bit, but nothing ever came of it.} Robert Drake & "Cloud" {For a time in Defenders, Bobby was interested in the Defender called Cloud. Then Cloud manifested its MALE body, and things just kinda shorted out.} James Proudstar & Danielle Moonstar [Moonstar] {Interesting chemistry between these two, but it was never developed.} Julio Esteban Richter & Tabitha Smith [Rictor] {Simonson was playing up the interest these two had in each other, and then boom! Boomer was after Sam and Rictor was after Rahne.} Kyle Gibney & Heather McNeil Hudson [Wild Child] [Guardian] {Furman was playing up soomething here, but it got nipped in the bud by the book's cancellation & Jimmy's return.} Kurt Wagner & Meggan {Plenty of potential there, but Meggan's relationship with Brian eventually straightened out.} Doug Ramsey & Kitty Pryde [Cypher] {They did a *LOT* of set-up with this one... it set up the entire Peter- Zsagi mess. The White Queen even claimed Doug was in love with Kitty. The relationship never went beyond friendship, though.} Eric Magnus Lehnsherr & Rogue [Magneto] {The sparks were definitely flying in the Savage Land in the 270s. But Magneto took off, and then Gambit appeared on the scene, and finally Mags was turned into a vegetable by his old friend Chuck.} ---------------------------- The DEFINITELY over section. ---------------------------- Scott Summers & Madelyne Pryor [Goblyn Queen] {Let's see now... she a) tried to turn the X-Men against him and his friends b) was a clone of his first true love and c) was seduced by a demon and tried to destroy the world by using their son as a human sacrifice in a demonic ritual. Finally, she was killed (and we saw the body,) and he and Jean got married. I'd say it's over, wouldn't you? But, there are those recent X-Man issues to think about...} Alex Summers & Madelyne Pryor {Alex got involved with Maddie for a time. Most of the reasons for THEIR break-up are covered one entry up. :)} Alex Summers & Magistrate Tam {Alex was apparently involved with a Genoshan magistrate after he went through the Siege Perilous. He's since gone back to Polaris.} Alex Summers & Scarlett McKenzie {A brief fling in the Meltdown LS, she recently popped up again and tried to kidnap Mr. Summers for a mysterious employer.} Forge & Raven Darkholme [Mystique] {He got emotionally involved when she became a space case for a while. This was later retconned into her spying on him, so they split. See also "Potential Comebacks."} Piotr Rasputin & Nereel of the Fall People [Colossus] {The two had a brief fling that resulted in a son, Peter.} Piotr Rasputin & Zsagi {Healer on the Beyonder's Planet. She, like everything else there, ceased to exist once Benjamin J. Grimm returned to Earth.} Piotr Rasputin & Kitty Pryde {Winner, hands down, both best-handled and most regretted (by fans) X-Men breakup.} Peter Nicholas & Callisto [Colossus] {The two got involved when Peter's memory was wiped by the Siege Perilous & Callisto had been "beautified" by Masque.} Warren Worthington III & Candy Southern {Ms. Southern suffered the fate of many a non-powered significant other: she was killed by an enemy. In this case, Cameron Hodge.} Warren Worthington III & Charlotte Jones {Former member of the "Disappeared" section, the break-up was recently confirmed "on-screen" by Ms. Jones. So, it goes here.} Robert Drake & Opal Tanaka [Iceman] {Bobby apparently couldn't understand the concept of honour. Led to friction and then to break-up.} Robert Drake & Lorna Dane {Iceman and Polaris were an item until Havok came on the scene. This caused no little amount of friction between Bobby and Alex for some time.} Henry P. McCoy & Trish Tilby [Beast] {These two are basically splitsville, but there's STILL something there. I'd like the writers to let Hank get a life. Ragging on Trish for doing her job is getting REAL old.} Henry P. McCoy & Vera {Break-up talked about in a LOOOONG ago issue of X-Factor where she was being manipulated by Mastermind.} Kurt Wagner & Cyrise {An item for a time, the two split up after she was guilt-tripped into working for the Sh'iar government.} Rusty Collins & Sally Blevins [Skids] {In an extremely callous move by the writers, Rusty was recently killed by Holocaust. I'm not impressed.} Sam Guthrie & Lila Cheney {Relationship petered out when she disappeared for a very long stretch, then re-appeared and gave Boomer the green light. It still torques me off that she described their relationship as a "fling" though. ARRRGH!!!} Roberto da Costa & Juliana Sandoval [Sunspot] {She was killed by Hellfire Club assassins employed by Donald Pierce. Major event in Roberto's life.} Logan & Mariko Yashada {She got killed. I'm unimpressed. It was a cool relationship...} Rahne Sinclair & The Wolf Prince [Wolvesbane] {Those Earth-Asgard commutes can be murder on relationships. Ask Thor.} Doug Ramsey & Rahne Sinclair {Do *NOT* get me started on Cypher's death. Don't. Don't do it....} Manuel de La Rocha & Alison Crestmere [Empath] [Magma] {Let's see... he fell in love with a personality created by sorcery, she started to snap out of it, he reinforced it, and then it got snapped by Firestar. She later told him to basically go to hell. I'd call that over, I think...} Eric Magnus Lehnsherr & Magda {Magneto's wife, who fled from him after he displayed his powers while destroying those who killed his daughter.} Charles Xavier & Moira MacTaggert {He went away to war; she broke up with him and married another.} Charles Xavier & Gabrielle Haller {Brief affair, one son, David. Anyone notice that Charlie's had a lot of busted relationships in his life?} Remy LeBeau and Belladonna [Gambit] {I don't recall the details, only that it's over. C'est la vie, eh Remy? :)} Remy LeBeau & Rogue {Rogue broke up with him after seeing something in his head that really spooked her. Bonus points to Remy though for his efforts in trying to prevent the break-up... first time since Claremont I actually liked the guy.} Victor Creed & Raven Darkholme [Sabretooth] {The relationship produced a normal human son, Graydon, currently head of the Friends of Humanity organization. Which leads me to ask... how old IS Mystique, anyways?} Brian Braddock & Courtney Ross {Braddock's old flame was disintegrated and then impersonated by Sat-yr-9} Longshot & Spiral {The two were involved at one time. They're not now. All I know, sorry. :)} Longshot & Riccochet Rita {I list the two seperately because the time-travel bit gives me a headache, and I don't believe it. :)} ---------------------------- Ended Without a Trace, dept. ---------------------------- Doug Ramsey & Betsy Braddock {Let's see: they met, fell in love (telepathically confirmed) and then all of a sudden he was dating Wolvesbane without a thought towards Betsy. And you wonder why I rank Simonson New Mutants almost as low as Mantlo Alpha Flights...} Julio Esteban Richter & Rahne Sinclair {At the end of New Mutants, Ric was off to Genosha to find Rahne. Then he was back, and no mention of what happened. Actually, I can't remember any mention of the romance after that at all.} Eric Magnus Lehnsherr & Lee Forester {This relationship just... disappeared. One moment he was writing to her from the Mansion during his Headmaster days, the next...} Jamie Maddrox & Theresa Rourke [Multiple Man] {The two went out in the Fallen Angels LS... sorta. It turns out that the so-called "main Jamie" in Fallen Angels was another renegade dupe... and the real Jamie didn't have any feelings for Siryn.} {This section, devoted to off-panel breakups, used to be larger. But then I found explanations for most others...} -------------------------------- Another Time, Another Place -------------------------------- {Explanatory notes: this section covers relationships from other times and places that affect the "main" reality. Hence, though the X-Man - Sonique relationship is mentioned, the rest of AoA will not.} Nathan Christopher Charles Summers & Aliya Dayspring [Jenskott] {Cable's wife when he lived in the future. Thought dead, she recently popped up again.} Rachel Summers & Franklin Richards [Phoenix II] {Rachel and the Franklin of her alternate timeline were involved. He got killed by Sentinels.} Nate Grey & Theresa Cassidy [X-Man] [Sonique] {Nate and the Theresa of his world got fairly close. What will happen if and when he meets the Theresa Cassidy of THIS world is unknown.} ----------------------------------------- Love Hurts When Only One's in Love, Dept. ----------------------------------------- {Okeydokey: In this section, the persons on the left were interested in the ones to the right, but NOT vice versa. Ok?} Warren Worthington III -> Jean Grey {In the early X-Men, Warren and Scott used to fight over Jean. However, Jeannie was always interested in the one-eyed wonder. :)} Charles Xavier -> Jean Grey {I kid you not. Check EARLY X-Men. Speaking of which, there were a bunch of other early X-Men relationships. Someone wanna help me out?} Logan -> Heather McNeil Hudson {He fell in love with her, she's always looked on him as a close friend/son she never had.} Robert Drake -> Darkstar {Apparently Boby was interested in his fellow Champion. However, she gave him a soldier as cold as Siberia. :-)} Betsy Braddock -> Scott Summers {Sure, Scott was tempted. But hey, if a nimbo is telepathically manipulating you, YOU'D be tempted too. ;-) } Kitty Pryde -> Alastair Stewart -> Rachel Summers {One of the funniest love "triangles" in history. Whatever happened to old Alastair, anyways?} Caliban -> Kitty Pryde {Cal almost married Kitty. She was, shall we say, less than thrilled at the idea.} Vanessa ? -> Nathan Christopher Charles Summers Askani'son {Copycat copied Domino, and ended up falling for the big lug. Unfortunately, when the deception was discovered, Cable's feelings did an about face. Vanessa's didn't.} Sam Guthrie -> Amara Aquilla [Magma] {Sam had a major crush on Amara, but she simply was *NOT* interested. He later hooked up with Lila, she with Empath.} Danielle Moonstar -> Roberto da Costa {Early New Mutants showed Dani as being interested in 'Berto. This could explain why she tried to save him from himself all alone during the Reignfire bit...} Rahne Sinclair -> Roberto da Costa {Earlier New Mutants also hint at Rahne being interested in Bobby (particularly the fairy tale issue.)} Rahne Sinclair -> Sam Guthrie {In one of the more touching realistic touches of the New Mutants, Rahne developed crushes on BOTH her male team-mates. Hey, she was only 13. I can see it.} Tabitha Smith -> Jamie Maddrox {Boom-Boom was after Jamie in the Fallen Angels mini. It was fun. :)} Gomi -> Theresa Cassidy {Gomi, like others in his family, has a tragic weakness for red-haired super- heroines. More fun. (Can you tell I liked the Fallen Angels?)} Feral -> Shatterstar {It's plain from early X-Force's that Feral was at least lusting after "Shattybuns," as she called him. Shatty gave her a shoulder so cold it might as well have been an iceberg.} Taki -> Lynne Huntington [Wiz Kid] {From a story in x-Force Annual #1. Lynne's a teacher at Taki's boarding school. One of the best "schoolboy crush" stories I've seen... and if Taki can keep up those smooth lines, he has a grand future in the romance department.} Mortimer Toynbee -> Wanda Maximoff [The Toad] [The Scarlet Witch] {The Toad had a longtime crush on Wanda... until he saw her pregnant, and was rather repulsed.} ------------------------------------------------------------------ Never Been in a relationship, not even a hint, and they DON'T CARE ------------------------------------------------------------------ Illyanna Rasputin [Magik] {While she was a teen-ager, Illyanna broke plenty of hearts, but no relationship per se. Then of course, she was de-aged and killed.} Xi'an Coy Manh [Karma] {Hmnn. Karma's supposed to be in Excalibur soon. Maybe I should start picking that book up... } Arthur Maddicks [Artie] {The pink and bald one is too young as yet for realtionships. The Artie & Leech Fan Club testifies as to his cuteness, however. Potential heart- breaker in future years. :-)} Leech {Ditto for the short, green, bald & extremely powerful guy.} Jubilation Lee [Jubilee] {Wolvie's a father-figure. So there. Some have claimed there's something going on with Synch, but I don't see it as yet.} Monet St. Croix, Everett Thomas, Penance [M] [Synch] {Too soon for these guys. They're too new. Patience...} Gaveedra [Shatterstar] {There's no such thing as relationships in the normal sense of the word in Shatty's time and dimension. Some have been hinting that there might be something between him and Ric; until I see proof, he stays here. As to his wife, re-read the X-Force issue. It's a technicality, the two have never met...} ------------------------- Potential Comebacks ------------------------- Piotr Rasputin & Kitty Pryde {I don't care WHAT Ellis has done. I don't. I'll hold out for this one 'till the day I die. These two are ALWAYS a potential comeback.} Forge & Raven Darkholme {He and Storm don't see one another too often these days, and Mystique's on X-Factor now. Wouldn't surprise me if the writers do something...} ---------------------------------------------------- The "Say *WHAT*?!?!?!?" Dept. ---------------------------------------------------- {This section is reserved for either a) relationships that took place ENTIRELY off panel, or b) stuff that doesn't fit in easily in the above categories.} Charles Xavier & Amelia Voight {Apparently Charlie went as far as violating her mind with his powers. Ranks down there with the "James Hudson gave a convicted psychotic murderer super-powers" idea in making heroes retroactively flawed, IMHO.} Kyle Gibney & Aurora {Kyle apparently was in a relationship with Aurora. However, Aurora is part of a split-personality, and it's not entirly clear whether Jeanne-Marie had anything to do with this. PLUS, it was entirely off panel, and part of an extremely bad AF guest shot. Sigh.} Logan & Jessan Hoan [Tiger Tyger] {This is an odd one. The two were never officially going out, but they WERE lovers. As it never officially started, and never officially ended, where do I put it? Je ne sais pas.} Logan & Silver Fox {Was it ever real, or all an implanted memory? YOU be the judge!! :)} Raven Darkholme & Irene Adler [Destiny] {Were they or weren't they? As the most confused relationship (not to mention the most shrouded in mystery) these two belong here.}