From: AP's Matt <[a--ta--c] at [texas.net]> Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.misc Subject: Re: Self Publishing: Colour Date: 14 Feb 1996 05:45:16 GMT In article <[legacy 1202961741520001] at [annex01-ppp-46.accent.net]> Adam Swan, [l--ga--y] at [accent.net] writes: >Most comics are 32 pages long with 4 covers. >It isn't economical to print anything below 10 000 units in colour. Last >year, before the latest round of paper price hikes, printing a standard >comic in full colour cost: Adam, since you're from Canada and responding to a Canadian query, I assume the dollar amounds you quoted are in Canadian dollars? >32 page + 4 covers >Full Colour >40 lb Mandoprime (interior) >60 lb Miraweb (exterior) >With final negative film provided. > >10 000 $6 763 or .6764/unit and .3046/unit for extras >15 000 $7 205 or .4804/unit and .2648/unit for extras >50 000 $16 473 or .3294/unit and .26.48/unit for extras Here are the prices for us, with 32-page interiors, 50# glossy interior paper, 70# glossy cover stock, including all film and pre-press costs: 5,000 - approx. US$4,000 (.80 per) 10,000 - approx. US$6,000 (.60 per) 25,000 - approx. US$10,000 (.40 per) >For optimum quality in a colour comic, you want to be able to scan at 2008 >dpi. Actually you only really need to scan (and work with) 300 dpi files. At 300dpi, a full-sized comic page will be about 24.3 Mb in size. However, when you output the page from computer to film you want the highest resolution possible (2000+ dpi, 133 line screen) in order to get the optimal effects on shading and color gradations. >You should budget another $3000 for the pre-press work, meaning that the >total cost of printing a full-colour comic will be easily over $10 000 >(Canadian) or more than $1 per book. Since distributors work on a 60% >discount and charge 2% S&H, you will have to set the cover price of your >comic higher than $2.65 to make any profit on a print run in the 10 000 >copy range. You will be paid 38% of whatever the cover price is, by the >distributor, and so obviously, 38% of the cover price has to be more than >a dollar for you to make any money. Also, these figures are outdated, >because of the paper price increases, so you will probably be looking more >around the $1.10 or &1.15 area for a break even on a 10 000 unit print >run. We are able to do all of our color and/or scanning in-house, so our total pre-press costs are relatively low. Our 32-page color comics have a cover price of $2.95 US ($4.10 Canadian), and we get about 34% of the cover price. So, we can (barely) break even at around 5000 units sold on a color comic. Just another publisher's views, - "Travelling Matt"