From: [cac 2] at [gte.com] (Crankin' Carl) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Ghandi quote needed Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 11:16:28 -0200 Consider these remarks by Ghandi: I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done had he been present when I was almost fatally as- saulted in 1908 [by an Indian extremist opposed to Gandhi's agreement with Smuts], whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defend me, I told him it was his duty to defend me even by using violence. Hence it was that I took part in the Boer War, the so-called Zulu Rebellion and [World War I]. Hence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner be- come or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. But I believe non-violence is infinitely superior to violence, forgiveness is more manly than punishment. ...But... forgiveness only when there is the power to punish... A mouse hardly forgives a cat when it allows itself to be torn to pieces by her. I therefore appreciate the sentiment of those who cry out for the condign punishment of General Dyer (responsible for massacre at Jallianwala Bagh April 13,1919) and his ilk. They would tear him to pieces if they could. But I do not believe India to be a helpless creature. Only, I want to use India's and my strength for a better purpose. ...Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.... We in India may in a moment realize that one hundred thousand Englishmen need not frighten three hundred million human beings. A definite forgiveness would, therefore, mean a definite recognition of our strength.... It matters little to me that for the moment I do no drive my point home. We feel too downtrodden not to be angry and revengeful. But I must not refrain from saying that India can gain more by waiving the right of punishment. We have better work to do, a better mission to deliver to the world. Mohandas K. Gandhi,Young India, August 11, 1920 from Fischer, Louis ed.,The Essential Gandhi, 1962. pp. 156-57. -- ( ( ( ) ) ) "... There is no evil in the atom, ( ( ( only in men's souls." Carl Castrogiovanni '. ___ .' Adlai Stevenson ' (> <) ' ----------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-----------------------------------------