From: [m--c] at [glasnost.glasnost.de] (Michael Czollek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.german,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Jews as hostages by the Police Trade Union
Date: 17 Jun 1994 23:44:43 +0200

[s--li--r] at [cs.umd.edu] (Oliver Seeliger) schreibt:
>Michael Zeleny <[z--le--y] at [oak.math.ucla.edu]> wrote:
>>[s--li--r] at [cs.umd.edu] (Oliver Seeliger) writes:
>>>Self-defense is a valid argument, Arthur.  However I don't know if granting
>>>average citizens the right to fire-arms wouldn't spread more violence 
>>>instead of detering it.  Maybe someone on the net can enlighten us how
>>>many crimes against Jews in Germany were committed with fire-arms?
>>
>>About six million, if you count the Protectorate.  Two of them -- [..]

>We are talking about gun-control in the Federal Republic of Germany (!), not
>the Third Reich!  Making guns accessible to everyone in today's Germany
>involves just as much danger for antisemitic crimes (if not more) as
>protection for Jews living in Germany NOW (!).  Therefore loosening
>restrictions on gun-control is not a viable solution for Germany.

>>>Self defense: yes.  But guns: no.  There must be other ways
>>Let me guess -- jackboots and armbands?

>Nope, try again: peaceful demonstrations against violence against foreigners
>and Jews for example!

That's all well and good. But I live in the Federal Republic.
And Neonazis phoning me. That they want to rape my girl-friend
to kidnap my son and to kill men. I am full of fear. Please,
tell me something you would do as you would be in my situation.

Can you heare the cry of my son? Now he sleep. But he is always
afraid to lost me.

In front of his school are standing sergants with strong
weapons. I am very afraid if they on strike...

Can you help?

michael


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