From: [p--n] at [nunki.usc.edu] (Po-Han Lin) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: ANTI-GUN FAQ Date: 19 Mar 1995 09:08:18 -0800 Anti-Gun FAQ Version 1.0 This FAQ serves to inform the readers about the tactics used by pro-gun posters in their debates with pro-gun control advocates. It also provides a starting point for anti-gun posters. Q: Why do all the pro-gun posters resort to insults rather than debate the real issues? A: Because they know they are on the losing end of an argument. It is the last resort they use: try to intimidate the anti-gun posters away. They are afraid of the truth. Just look at the posts and you will find that pro-gun posters are the ones using personal insults, rather than debate the issues. Q: Where are the sources of your statistics? A: Ask Pim. Q: Is it true that pro-gun posters are ugly, fat, lazy, and beer-swilling? A: Yes, three people have admitted to it. And no one has objected to this labelling. In essense, its as true as it can be. Q: Do pro-gun posters have a hard time getting women? A: Yes, just look in the advertising sections in the back of gun magazines. (hint: tons of ads for information on buying wives from overseas.) Q: If they do get women, are they usually ugly? A: Yes. One of the posters likes hairy women. He indicated his desire for women's skin to be like that of a Kiwi fruit. (hairy). Q: Ok, enough of this, tell me what I need to know before getting started. A: Read the following three stories. And decide for yourself. Truth is decided by individuals. No one tells you what is right or wrong. Read the stories and understand what the pro-gun posters are advocating. Then you make your own decision. If you need statistics, ask Pim. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STORY 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case A: Everyone allowed to carry guns. Two people in a bar start arguing. One starts insulting the mother of the other. One tell him to say sorry, or else. The other says fuck you. The other threatens again, or else. The other says your mother again. The other reaches in his holster, and brings out a gun. The other hurries and shoots. Bullets are exchanged between the two. Three innocents die inside. These two arguers DIE. Their families have no more father. The kids grow up in poverty. In their exchanges of bullets, 4 travel out of the bar, fly 65 feet accross the streets. One hits a little baby right inbetween the eyes. DEATH. Blood gushes out and mother cries. One hits a guy running home, finding out he just won the lottery. One hits a policemen trying to control traffic. One hits a little girl right in the eyeball, shattering it, blood flows down the face of that little girl. She dies 3 days later. Mother of that girl vows never to walk outside of her home anymore. Case B: Guns outlawed. Two people in a bar start arguing. One starts insulting the mother of the other. One tell him to say sorry, or else. The other says fuck you. The other threatens again, or else. The other says your mother again. The other starts swinging a fist at the other. They start fighting. Bouncer comes and breaks them up and sends them out. Both are arrested, and sent home to their families. Another day passes. Happy happy. --- FACT: In the most recent study, states that relaxed gun-control laws had an INCREASE in number of homicides. (Yes, in Florida too) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STORY 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A: Son B: Father A: Dad, I want to shoot guns. B: Why, son? A: Well, I don't know, I just like to be Dirty Harry. You know, shoot people, and be so cool. So powerful. Make people fear me. B: That is not true son. The main reason is because you want respect. You don't need guns to get respect. Our society is past that stage. We use education, not might. Intelligence, not brute force. Understanding, not hate. Peace, not war. We vote and impeach, not kill and murder. We need not take bows and arrows to hunt for food. We are cultivated now. We can grow our own food. A: But why are guns still legal then? B: Well, son, there are god damn idiots out there that played with guns and find it so fun to shoot those bullets. So they make up all these reasons to keep their guns. They don't realize that we can regulate and control it in the shooting range and hunting grounds and let them satisfy their (or our) hobby. A: Why are you cursing dad? B: Well son, I'm just foul-mouthed like many gun-owners. I am sorry. A: Are all gun-owners foul-mouthed? B: Yes, they curse at those that they don't like. Similar to shooting people they don't like. In addition, they are stupid, fat, and ugly. A: Really? B: Yes. They have very big bellies from drinking too much bear and eating too much junk food. A: But Dirty Harry is skinny. B: Trust me, do you want to be stupid, fat, and ugly? A: No. B: Then don't treat guns as toys. Grow up and be a contributor to society, an educator, rather than a brute-force animal. Use reason, not force. Understanding, not hate. All of a sudden a stray bullet from a drive-by shooter breaks through the window, and hits the son right through the heart, killing him instantly. The dad cries out in sorrow and pain. -- Fact: Every day four people die from accidental firing of guns. A tool used primarily to kill. A tool to send a speeding bullet through someone. Regulate this weapon where it belongs... In the shooting range and hunting grounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STORY 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A: Gun-happy person B: person A: Hey man, I just love playing with guns... I mean, I feel so powerful. B: Why do you need a tool to feel powerful? A: Well, you know, makes me feel like Rambo, I can just pull a trigger, and BOOM, kill someone. B: So you want people to fear you? A: Yeah. It's also easier to rob banks with them. It's also easier to get the money off of another person. You know... simple pull of a trigger. B: But why? Why not vent your ego-complex somewhere else like sports? Must you carry a weapon of killing? I mean, if you want it as a hobby, then do it where it is safe like in a shooting range. Why are you advocating we retreat to those cow-boy times, where everyone carries a gun just to walk the streets? A: I like a show-down, where I can prove my toughness. Shoot people. B: You are basically acting out your instinctive drive of aggression. Like a brute-force animal. Do you know what separates us from most animals? We have higher mental ability. We reason better. If we can use our brains and our pens, rather than through brute force and aggression, then we are no better than monkeys. A: I don't care, I want to be able to carry it around in the streets so I can find a chance to show off my shooting ability and kill people. I'm basically looking for trouble, looking for a chance to show my aggression. Shooting range is dull, I want real action... I want to kill people. That is why I want to carry guns with me all the time. B: With this kind of attitude, I'm sure you will find it... Why don't you just carry some other types of self-defense items, why guns? A: Look, I told you already. Guns kill. More excitement. More satisfaction... loud noise, bloody results... like hollywood. B: This is a sad... A: Trying to insult me? B: No, trying to help you. A: Damn idiot.. you are trying to insult me...!?!?!?! The gun-happy person then takes out a gun, aims it at the other person... A: Take back that statement... what do you mean you feel sorry for me?!?! B: I was only kidding... please put down that gun... please... A: Liar, I will teach you a lesson.... (Music from movie _The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly_ plays in the background) The gun-happy person then steps back, and retracing the imagery of clint-eastwood, spins his gun in a circle, and shoots three times. Shot one: BOOM, right through the heart of the other person. Blood pours out by the gallons, changing the color of the ground red. Shot two: BOOM, right through the face. Bones shatter, brain and blood mesh together and squirt everywhere. Shot three: BOOM, right across the stomach. Intestine and kidney explode... Blood flows everywhere. Later, police storm in, and find that Billy has just shot his brother. Mother receives news, and cries out in pain and suffering. -- FACT: In U.S. homicides, more people are killed by guns than any other method (including knives, and knives are more common). FACT: U.S. Homicide rate is HIGHEST among the TOP first world countries: this includes Japan, England, France, and Germany. FACT: Japan, England, France, and Germany have strict gun-control laws: banned --