From: [V--ta--e] at [phoenix.net] Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc Subject: NRA BACKS CONGRESSIONAL PROBE OF MILITIAS Date: Tue, 23 May 95 19:31:54 PDT NRA Backs Congressional Probe of Militias B. Drummond Ayres Jr. of The New York Times PHOENIX - Wayne LaPierre Jr., the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, said Sunday that his organization favored congressional hearings into the scope and intent of the heavily armed "citizen militias" that are proliferating around the country. "We condemn hate groups, terrorist groups," LaPierre said. "We have never had anything to do with any of these paramilitary-type groups you see on television. That's not the National Rifle Association." The association, the most powerful gun lobby in the country, has suffered image problems since two sympathizers of gun-toting right-wing groups were arrested as suspects in the Oklahoma City bombing. LaPierre's comments Sunday on the CBS News program "Face the Nation," made as the association wound up its 124th annual convention, seemed in part to be damage control and even included a promise that the association would be "more careful" in its choice of language. In fact, some association officials, who would speak only anonymously, said the organization was beginning to worry a bit about its image, especially since pollsters began reporting a falloff in public approval. But they cautioned that while LaPierre might endorse an investigation into paramilitary groups and the association might tinker with its image and language, there would be no significant change in its basic goal of promoting and defending the right to bear arms - and, most immediately, repealing the ban on assault weapons that Congress passed last year. By sticking to that goal, the officials said, the association built itself into a formidable political force in the country, able to influence elections, notably the 1994 congressional elections, because its message appealed to a significant conservative voting bloc. That message, they added, will increasingly include not just an unyielding defense of the right to bear arms but also a defense of any other private right the federal government attempts to intrude upon. "Mess with one constitutional right and sooner or later you'll start messing with them all," one official said. During his national television appearance on Sunday morning and throughout his convention appearances, LaPierre, the policy chief for the NRA, seemed to confirm much of what the other association officials said privately. In a speech to the convention on Saturday, he not only talked about guns but also spoke at length about other matters of concern to conservatives, among them unfunded government mandates, property rights, red tape and environmental laws. On Sunday, while he went further than ever before in criticizing paramilitary groups, he pulled up short of the blanket condemnation of them that anti-gun forces have made in demanding congressional hearings. "They have a right to freedom of speech," he continued. "They even have a right to own a firearm. But if they advocate violence, if they advocate overthrow of government - any type of illegal activity - that's where the line needs to be drawn. And we would certainly throw anyone out of the NRA that advocated those points." LaPierre was careful to couple his endorsement of an investigation of paramilitary groups with a demand that there also be a congressional investigation into what he termed the "excesses" of federal firearms agents in enforcing gun-control laws. He avoided resorting to his earlier, much criticized characterization of the agents as "jackbooted government thugs," saying his choice of language was poor. That language has been criticized in recent days by President Clinton, former President George Bush and many members of Congress. But LaPierre left no doubt that his association still firmly believes that the agents had been too heavy-handed, especially during a fiery raid after a standoff with the Branch Davidian religious cult in Waco, Texas, in 1993 that led to about 80 deaths. He also left no doubt that the association would continue to press hard in Congress for the repeal of the ban on the sale of assault rifles, despite polls showing widespread public support for it. But the chief sponsor of the ban, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), said on the same program that she had rounded up enough support to prevent the NRA's allies from prevailing if the issue comes to a vote. "We have more than enough votes in the Senate to stop a repeal," Feinstein said. "Things have changed. As I go from member to member and ask them about their position today, I have members that tell me even though they didn't vote for (the ban) the last time around, they would not vote to repeal it because they believe it sends the wrong message." (The Los Angeles Times contributed to this report. Story Number:01043 Story Date: 5/22/95