From: [r j l] at [pitt.edu] (Richard J. Loether) Newsgroups: alt.activism,misc.headlines,alt.war Subject: Re: Waco aflame Date: 22 Apr 93 15:28:54 GMT The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms in the USA has a long history of making work for itself at the expense of American citizens. They were formed during the 1920s when Alcoholic bevereges were banned here and were then known as the Bureau of Prohibition. Their job was to find and break up illegal whiskey stills. When Prohibition was repealed, they became an agency without a mission and they've been in search of one ever since. Today, the BATF is in court in Idaho explaining why they killed the wife and son of Randy Weaver in another siege excercise in 1992. He had reportedly sold a shotgun to a BATF agent that had a barrel 1/10 inch shorter than regulations allow. David Koresh, aka Vernon Howell, the BD leader, was a Federally Licensed class III firearms dealer. He is supposed to have had several conversion kits for converting semi-auto guns into full auto, that he had not paid the tax on, and had not filled out the proper forms. This little tidbit tended to get lost among the cries of wacko-religious-nutcase and child-abuser thar were the order of the day at the regular briefings by the BATF and the FBI during the siege. In answer to the original question, it appears to many people in the US that the BDs didn't use the weapons they were supposed to have had because they didn't have them. Why were the claims made? Good question, we'll leave that as an excercise to the reader. RJL -- Rich Loether Snail mail: University of Pittsburgh The Ideas: EMail: [r j l] at [pitt.edu] Computing and Info Services Mine, Voice: (412) 624-6429 600 Epsilon Drive all FAX : (412) 624-6426 Pittsburgh, PA 15238 Mine.