Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
From: [j g d] at [dixie.com] (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: FBI Edits Waco 911 Tapes
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 20:52:00 GMT

[k--c--r] at [moon.ral.rpi.edu] (William Katcher) writes:
>100 civilians armed to the teeth inside a fortress seems like overkill too.
Hmm.  According to the court papers, there was about 2 guns per person.
In my house there are approximately 50 guns per person.  I consider the
Davidians very poorly armed.

>The self-defense excuse only works for the initial raid.  After that, they
>could have surrendered and sorted the rest out in court.
>The only evidence that the FBI started the fire is speculation.  
>It wasn't just a fire, but an explosion.  It seems doubtfull that many
>people could have escaped.

You really don't know ANYTHING about this incident, do you?  You're one of
those people who swallows whatever the government feeds you without question.
Let's go over a few things.  There was NO explosion at the beginning of the
fire. I have a tape of the whole thing.  You ought to find a copy and view
it.  The explosion was about 10 minutes into the fire and was most likely
a propane tank.  The fairly slow and very luminous fireball look just like
the ones from the propane tanks I've intentionally blown up.  Next, it has
only recently come out that the FBI was using acetone as the CS solvent.
Do you know anything about acetone?  Such as how flammable it is or how
strong an intoxicant it is.  Didn't think so.  And were you aware that
acetone goes right through the common military style gas masks the 
Davidians had?  It is likely the Davidians were in a stupor when the 
concentration of acetone vapor reached flammable proportions.  It was likely
ignited by a lantern or cookstove.  Still see no culpability to the FBI?

It is pretty evident the BATF/FBI's real intent was to execute civil
forfeiture against Mt. Carmel.  They intended to take the compound and 
any wealth therein.  It is likely no one would have ever been charged with
anything.  Koresh and his associates were pretty smart people.  They most
likely realized the government's real intent.  They therefore had nothing
to gain by surrendering and everything to lose.

Take off your blinders, Bill and take another look.

John

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