From: [m--rk--a] at [tartarus.uwa.edu.au] (Mark Haselden) Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs Subject: Re: What is going on with "CAT/KHAT" ? Date: 21 Jan 1995 01:51:55 GMT Mary Ker ([m v k] at [yogi.tuc.noao.edu]) wrote: : Ric Oshrin ([sleuth 1] at [ix.netcom.com]) wrote: : : I understand that the formula for a mild stimulant known as Khat is : : available via the internet. It is not readily available as I have not : : tracked it down yet, though there is a good deal of information and : : discussion on the product. : There is an interesting article on CAT in Spin Magazine this month. It : seems some users end up with Parkinson's like symptoms. It ain't "mild" : from the description given in the magazine. Khat (Cat) is methcathinone (Ephedrone), a moderately strong CNS stimulant prepared by the oxidation of either Ephedrine or pseudoephedrine (Sudafed/Sinutab - other stuff too) with Cr in its hexavalent oxidation state (CrO3, Cr2O7 etc... usually using CrO3 or K2Cr2O7). It is prepared in kind of the opposite way to methedrine (ie an oxidation instead of a reduction). The parkinson's like symptoms are usually caused by destruction of the dopamine centres of your brain. The reports in the press of"pseudo-parkinsonism" engendered by drug usage are due to the effect of MPP+ on the brain cells (MPP+ is a metabolite of MPTP - a by-product of poorly controlled temperature or pH conditions during a common synthetic route to the production of MPPP (Merperidine, Demerol). I have heard nothing reliable on methcathinone being toxic to the dopamine receptors, and would like some REAL information before I attatch any credence to what is probably just another scare story. I assure you that MPTP and methcathinone are so structurally unrelated that there is no way one could be produced from the other, It could be possible that a metabolite of methcathinone would be producing these effects, but I doubt it severely. From what I understand, it's method of action is very similar to that of methamphetamine, which no-one claims to have such effects. In respons to some of the other posts in this thread, the African shrub Khat (catha edulis) contains cathinone. This is related to methcathinone by n-methyl substitution, just as methedrine is related to amphetamine. As for someone saying "Who would want to take a drug made from draino and battery acid". Let me rephrase: "Who would want to take a drug which was made primarially from ephedrine, and had Sodium Hydroxide and Sulphuric acid used in its production". If you want to boycott drugs which were prepared with the aid of H2SO4 and NaOH, then you'd better not get ill :) Cheers -- Mark Haselden - Leviathan/MegaWatts | An optimist believes we live in email [m--rk--a] at [tartarus.uwa.edu.au] | the best of all possible worlds [haseld m] at [cs.uwa.oz.au] | A pessimist fears this is true Finger for PGP public key