From: [gregt 10548] at [aol.com] (GregT10548) Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs Subject: Re: Comment on drug testing Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:43:02 -0400 [a--d] at [qed.uucp] (Chris Auld) writes: {munch} >And now, the point of this post: does anyone >know if estimates of p and q exist? And what would be a reasonable >guess for d? (If anyone could point me to a relevant paper on this >isse, as I'm sure I'm far from the first person to note this, I would >be appreciative.) "The Other Side Of Drug Testing" William L. Holstein CHEMTECH Sept., 1992. American Chemical Society 120,000 tests in the aviation industry: 0.47% positive. 55,400 tests at 21 major airlines: 0.21% positive. 29,000 tests of federal gov. workers: 0.53% positive. (My company: 2,500 tests: 0.86% positive.) Accuracy: Highest accuracy reported in scientific literature: One(1) false positive in 686 urine specimens. Note that this is for the double testing procedure: immunoassay screening followed by confirmatory Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry. Immunoassay alone is notoriously unreliable. Note: The limits of the drug or drug metabolite present in the medium being tested, blood, urine, etc., determines whether the test is positive or negative. Higher limits tend to result in more false negatives and lower limits result in more false positives. These levels are arbitrary as far as I know I have not seen any published data on the accuracy of negative tests. It seems that the companies are not that concerned with how many false negatives they get back. (Wait.....I don't guess that they really care how many false positives they get back either.) William Holstein calculated that from the above numbers the predictive value of the tests ranged from 50% to 90%, or that between 10% and 50% of all positive test results were false positives. Anything for a safer workplace. Greg Schorr ********** You don't count the dead when god's on your side. Bob Dylan **********