Newsgroups: alt.games.whitewolf Subject: WORLD OF DARKNESS: FAQ 5 of 5 From: [r j kirkpatric] at [ualr.edu] (RJK) Date: 17 Jan 94 09:08:40 CST Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 20:51:47 -0800 From: [d--r--e] at [efn.org] (Deird'Re Brooks) To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: WoD FAQ, pt 5 X. Ideas for Atmosphere - Music, Lighting, etc ----------------------------------------------- A new section has been added to this - a list of non-vampiric, lycanthropic, or magic(k)al sources of Story Ideas. Everything in this particular piece of the list is in its original post, so credit where credit is due is there. Xa. Music (Lots of new stuff here) ----------------------------------- From: BSU::ANANDA 1-JUN-1993 16:34:57.80 To: MSUS1::IN%"[j--a] at [cs.indiana.edu]" CC: AJ Subj: RE: ST FAQ Rules & Music What? No one commented on music for Toreador?? For something to play for your Toreador players, try "The Hunger", title track from a Michael Bolton tape. Fairly good lyrics in general, excellent for Toreador. Stuff Toreador might possibly listen to: *All* of Andrew Lloyd Weber's _Phantom_of_the_Opera_, and especially "The Music of the Night." I have the double-CD version, and *every* time I listen to it, I hear something new in the music. The amount of subtle symmetry is unreal -- in the midst of one scene, you hear the theme from another scene, and if you're paying attention it can influence the mood a good deal. Probably lots of other Lloyd Weber stuff, for pretty much the same reasons. Damn near any kind of jazz. The Poseurs will like jazz for the sake of liking jazz, while the Artistes will be more likely to understand and appreciate the requirements all the improvisation makes on the players. Various types of classical music, depending on the individual. The Poseurs will like whatever's "trendy" at the moment, while the Artistes' preferences will be more individualistic and less likely to change frequently. (I prefer baroque stuff, because I've sung things like Bach fugues and know how bloody difficult it can be to do them well.) Carl Orff's _Carmina_Borana_. I tend to lose track of how many different languages are in that monster. Stylistically, it ranges from the very intense, stacatto feel of the first piece (which has been used in numerous movies) to a very legato, almost lyrical feel. I've heard a synth version, too. Real fun stuff. (maybe) Enya, possibly all three albums: _Enya_, _Watermark_, and _Shepherd_ _Moons_. Visual artists will love her videos, which tend to look like paintings in motion. Assorted stuff by Iaso Tomita and Vangelis, both geniuses at the syths. Vladimir Horowitz, "one of the best classical pianists ever recorded". _Gershwin_Plays_Gershwin_, if you can find it. It's the man himself, playing "Rhapsody in Blue" and several shorter piano works. The best orchestral version of the Rhapsody I've heard is the one conducted by Mitch Miller. And of course, any of the younger set will probably listen to Floyd. Pink Floyd, played rather too loud through closed-ear headphones, could come close to a religious experience for some Toreador... ...That's a start... >:-] --Ananda Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 13:59:00 -0500 (EST) From: James Rogers <[94 JROGERS] at [vax.mbhs.edu]> Subject: Music stuff To: vampire <[v--p--e] at [math.ufl.edu]> This is a list of stuff I put together for a putative V:tM campaign. I don't know much about punk/rock/etc., so my stuff is mostly classical stuff high on creepiness. Bela Bartok: Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta - 1st and 3rd mvts. Bartok is the consummate creepy composer, and also Hungarian. Some of his more "traditional" pieces might also be good if you want a background of classical music that "doesn't sound quite right." Arvo Paert: Fratres There are manymanymany versions and arrangements of the piece that were just put out recently. You can find several if you know where to look. My version is by the Kronos Quartet on their album "Winter Was Hard." Actually, the rest of the stuff I've actually recorded is all by the Kronos Quartet. I'll group them by album: "Kronos Quartet": Terry Riley: Half-Wolf (!) Dances Mad in Moonlight from Salome Dances for Peace Sorry, this is from "Winter Was Hard." It makes a decent Garou theme, not to mention being fairly "mad." And no, I don't believe in choosing music by title now, stuff that really is on "Kronos Quartet": Peter Sculthorpe: String Quartet #8 A very melancholy piece. It sounds sort of "naturalistic" and would probably be out of place in the city. Philip Glass: Company Ha! The only composer on this list that's also on Mark Rein*Hagen's list. Good piece, and the KQ is excellent. "Winter Was Hard": The aforementioned "Fratres" and "Half-Wolf... etc" and also Astor Piazzolla: "Four, for Tango" Good music for a "formal" scene, when there is supposed to be dancing. Other music I've been considering: Aram Khachaturyan: "Masquerade" Suite - excellent by any name. Dmitrii Shostakovich: Symphony #4 Maurice Ravel: La Valse Antonin Dvorak: Symphony #8, movement #3 Camille Saint-Saens: Danse Macabre Joseph Schwantner: Music of Amber Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1993 13:07:42 -0500 From: "Douglas L. Bridges" <[d l b 1] at [ra.msstate.edu]> Subject: Book o' Nod and others To: [v--p--e] at [math.ufl.edu] I think that I have to agree on Tim on this. I don't think that you should put out a book of Nod defining everything which caused the creation of the Cainites. But, how I understood it from the letter the Mr. Chupp wrote is that it would be an inexact translation. I think that Mr. Chupp needs give us more of a description of what he is thinking it is going to be like, instead of just giving it as a trailer to the announcement of Dark Colony and Sabbat ST guide. I am glad that you are putting out Dark Colony, and being one of the Bourben Street droolers, I was mad that you were putting it out before the NO by Night. (At least that is how I understood it.) I wanted to put down my list of favorite CD's to use during a vamp game. I have found all of these to have a great background effect for the games. 1) Soundtrack to Aliens 3. This is a quick cue to all of my players the some Garou are entering the scene. It is one of the most eerie CD's I have ever heard and I HIGHLY recomend it. 2) Soundtrack to The Hunger. The eerie background music mixed in with the classical music makes a great mackground sound for any vamp game. 3) Joy Division-> Unknown Pleasures. At the recomendation of the ST's guide, I bought this CD. It is a very dark and down trodden CD. A must. 4) Faith No More-> The Real Thing. Every song on this CD fits the WoD. If you have it, read the lyrics to all the songs. They all could be talking about vamparism. This CD works well when the characters go into some of the Urban Brawl scenes and into some of the heavier clubs. 5) Holst->The Planets. The eerieness of all of these songs will freak most players. 6) Orff-> Carmina Burana. The chanting and singing in this works great for all meetings of a chantry, or especially when the players wander onto the Sabbat and their rituals. 7) Best of the Talking Heads. Malkavians. 'Nuff Said. 8) Monty Python -> The Final Rip Off. See above. 9) Red Hot Chili Peppers -> Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Start playing this when the players get into any urban dirty area(with anarachs, sabbat, whataver.) Other music we've used around here: Peter Gabriel's _Passion_, the soundtrack for _The Last Temptation of Christ_: good dark stuff, almost completely instrumental, except for some vocalizing (I wouldn't really call it *singing*...) Skinny Puppy's _Too Dark Park_: more on the alternative side, second (?) track was our chase scene theme when we were playing Nightlife ;) T2 soundtrack Message 91/187 From Eric Michael Jumper Nov 2, 93 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 08:07:45 -0800 Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: Music Hey All you lovers and haters of music: this is eric: For werewolf games involving the weaver, Kronos Quartet (Sp?) is really great (Hell, they're really great for many other things too). If you want a *True* horror sound trak, Diamanda Galas' (Sp?) Plague Mass is not to be believed. I also like Ozzy's Ironman for no particular reason. (Beavis and Butthead in chorus: Buh Duh Duhduhduh, badadadadada da duh) If you got that one, you really watch too much Beavis and Butthead. Finnally, you need some happy, spoodgy, froofy music for intro's, caern scenes etc. It ain't all Iron Maiden and Alice in Chains. (which are great too) eric still reeling from the Diamanda Galas concert *shudder* Message 62/187 From Tom Granvold Nov 2, 93 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 09:20:55 -0800 Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: Re: Music Eric wrote: >For werewolf games involving the weaver, Kronos Quartet (Sp?) is >really great (Hell, they're really great for many other things >too). At least somebody else knows about the Kronsos Quartet, yes that is spelled correctly. To be more specific, I recomend the following: "Salome: Dances for Peace" by Terry Riley, "Pieces of Africa", and another recording of Terry Riley's which I can't remember its name (on of the pices on it is something like Midnight Ride of the Dream Catcher). Also, to really add to those really depressing moments in the game, say when the vampire character goes into rage and kills someone he still cares about, try "Dark Angels" again performed by the Kronos Quartet. Enough for now, Tom Granvold [t--m] at [clipper.ingr.com] Message 97/159 From [S--LZ--R] at [uwplatt.edu] Nov 2, 93 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 23:16:38 -0800 Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: Re: music I would also recommend Paul Simon's "Rythem of the Saints" album for Moots in Werewolf and "Bram Stoker's Dracula Soundtrack" for Vampire. I especially like A. Lennox's "Love song for a Vampire". D Lucas Quote--"So I drink blood from time to time. We all have our little quirks don't we." (player to npc) Message 46/159 From Andrew Philip Fabbro Nov 3, 93 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 09:58:17 -0800 Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: Music I read some upstream music suggestions and thought I'd throw in a few of my own... Tom Waits, _The Bone Machine_ (several songs..."Black Wings" is practically written with V:tM in mind)... Rain Dogs also has its Gothic moments Carl Orff, _Carmina Burana_...pretty high-powered choral work-- a 20th-century composition using the text of depraved medieval monks (really) Rachmaninoff, _Vespers_ most any Gregorian chant...for those mausoleum scenes... parts of Pink Floyd's _Meddle_, esp the first track ...and I think _Night on Bald Mountain_ goes without saying...there's a delightful record that came out back in the 60s called "The Devil in Stereo Hi-Fi". Alas, I seem to have lost my copy, but NOBM led off and it get grimmer from there...;) Message 25/159 From James A Estes Nov 3, 93 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 12:49:03 -0800 Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]> Subject: Re: Music > Carl Orff, _Carmina Burana_...pretty high-powered choral work-- >a 20th-century composition using the text of depraved medieval >monks (really) Don't forget the techno remix of this piece, by Apotheosis. Is it Gothic or is it Punk? Its both! Pax JAE Message 29/111 From The LITTLE man FROM another PLACE Nov 5, 93 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 93 19:24:19 GMT To: Deird'Re Brooks <[d--r--e] at [efn.org]> Subject: Music... Ok, here it goes...(bloody tt): For the calm baefore the storm: * Dead Can Dance: all albums. Eerie stuff * And also the tree: all, cold wave. * Any Oldfield. * The Prisoner sound track. * Twin Peaks sound track. * Dune sound track. For the storm: * UB92 (I think, can't bloody remember their name) Das Boot, exelent techno/das boot mixing. (BTW das boot is an old TV serial about a german U-Boot during the WWI. Very good) * Metalica. Last album. * Mega death. * Every new dead ghost. For both (depending on tracks): * ALL the Danny elfman! * Any horror/fantastic film soundtrack. And of course: The little mermaid soundtrack (any Malkavian meeting)/Remixed with acid jazz............(No I A mNoT M aD!"#$%%^&^&**). Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 19:33:14 +1000 (EST) From: [int 907 a] at [lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au] (Sean O'Connell) Subject: musicing To add to the list, some dark/goth music.... Concrete Blond: a much-mentioned group woth Vampires - Blood letting - great! - Walking in London. (where's the bloody case, ah here tis) The title, track, 'Walking in London' captures the idea of a Blood Bond beautifully... just the entire tone of the song. 'City screaming', 'Why don't you see me', and perhaps 'Someday' make for good vamp-stuff too... quiet, but eery. Shakespear's Sister (their spelling): Sacred heart Has some cool goth tracks, esp. Run Silent , although at times is a bit 'boppy' to be good for bground music.... Blade Runner Soundtrack: no more to be said, although I would remove track 3 for b/ground music :) (vocals ;) Maybe Hunters&Collectors and Black Sorrows, but only certain selected songs... 's all that comes to mind :) Sean Xb. Idea Sources ----------------- Message 132/159 From The Deranged Priest Nov 2, 93 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1993 09:59:39 CST To: [d--r--e] at [efn.org] Subject: Re: Should work this time... Well, here's what I know just offhand. If the idea still appeals after this, the net will probably divulge other sources as well. The Serpent and the Rainbow_ (can't remember the author's name) Book is available (and I don't have it, otherwise I'd add author, publisher, and ISBN...) as well as the movie version. The movie is available on video. If you're going to run a Haiti chronicle, this is the thing to hunt down. Probably good for general inspiration on Vodun-type stuff. "In Search Of..." A 1970's era TV series narrated by Leonard Nimoy. When not looking for things like Vincent Van Gogh's life and the Lindbergh baby, it gets into neat mystical stuff that is *very* informative. These give good background for World of Darkness type subjects. It is currently running in hour-long blocks (two episodes) on Arts and Entertainment (cable) Monday-Friday at 8:00 AM and 7:00 PM Eastern time. I think there's a weekend show too but I don't remember offhand. Also, Ted Turner seems to have rights to several movies from the seventies dealing in "paranormal" phenomena and shows them on either TBS or TNT occasionally. In the realm of fiction, there's "The X Files" also on Fox, 9:00 PM Eastern Fridays. I haven't actually seen it, but have heard so much about it... It works from the perspective of the FBI, so it might contain inspiration for a Hunter chronicle, among other things. If I recall correctly, this is doing pretty well in the ratings, and may stick around for at least a couple of years, keeping in mind that this kind of thing usually dies a quick death on TV.