>>>>>[Greetings everyone. How are you doing? I just had to be the first to post :)]<<<<< -- Dante <11:59:57 / 11-02-53> >>>>>[Things are doing as well as possible as can be in Omaha. Any of you chummers here ever here of VSI? They have an interesting biz propostion proposed to me and my chum... Well, off to test this new wiz deck]<<<<< Flurr {tm} <12:21:45/11-02-53> >>>>>[Howdy, y'all. Hi. I am just making sure that this deck can work with this system. Not much IC, but being a semi-decker, I want to make sure that this'll work. Heh heh heh. Hello to all the gang (so to speak). Hope to hear from you. BTW: Has anyone heard about a possible new type of smartgun link? I have heard something about a link that let's you auto-target several people, and then have the link shoot from person to person. This isn't the regular link. Something about targeting faces. Anyone?]<<<<< --Jew <11:28:50/11-2-53> >>>>>[Heard of something similar when someone was using their encephalon. Using the different processes to differentiate between two smart-gun links, so they could fire two different guns at the same time... Sounds wiz, but I'm not about to offer my body for the experiment...]<<<<< Flurr {tm} <12:42:23/11-02-53> >>>>>[Well, I want to be the second to post... so there!!! Who else is on the list at the moment???]<<<<< --Tailhook >>>>>[Oh, Shaddup you ignorant little dorf...]<<<<< --Feedback >>>>>[Well I see you got the spelling right...]<<<<< --Tailhook >>>>>[ Okay, I shall permit myself to enter this juvenile fray...THIRD to POST, alright? Who has managed to join this server, thus far? ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <12:59:31/11-02-53> >>>>[ Acouple days ago me and me chummers were discussing the finer things in life, you know Women, Money, a good set of T3 Spurs. The question came up about the makers of the T3's, Prometheus Engineering. So little is known about this fraggin' Corp. Since it's based out of Chicago, the obvious assumption is it's a front for the Mob, but who knows. If anyone East side has any knows on this place, be a chumm and past it along. Synapse, 17:08:51/11:02:53]<<<< >>>>>[Word has it that Ares is looking for a group of persons to perform a break-in at the Ares main office. This, I assume, is in response to the government probe into their quality control measures. I'm not sure what these burgalars would have to do, but I would assume steal some records, make a big mess, and essentially give Ares an excuse to to give those documents to the Gov. Don't you just love corps?]<<<<< -- Dante <14:20:16 / 10-31-53> >>>>>[ Sounds like another Johnson screwed up and needs a specialist in quasi-legal activities to bail him out of trouble. I wouldn't touch this one with a long range, satellite mounted comm laser operated by a remote channel!!!! Johnson could easily turn the team over to the CorpCops (after the evidence is destroyed) to gain the favor of his superiors. Take my advice, stay away from a doublecross]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ I've got the latest news on the MagnaTech dustup, straight from the Metro Police BBS. Metro found three unidentified bodies in the wreckage of the MagnaTech office building. The bodies were ripped to pieces, but a little tissue matching revealed that there were in fact three. (they haven't ruled out the possiblility of more bodies though) At least one of the three was heavily cybered as evidenced by the presence of neural linkages in almost all of the pieces identified with this body. The tissue samples and linkage components were too badly ruined by the blast to identify the type and manufacturer. The three were probably near the center of the blast. ]<<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ I've also heard rumors that the wounded security guards have made statements to Metro claiming that the building's security had been breeched from the roof, and were on their way up to backup the forces that had engaged the intruders when the place blew up.]<<<<< ---OddBall <17:30:46/11-02-53> >>>>>[ Interesting! I wonder if Big Jake has found out anything about the chopper pilot that was supposedly involved. I think I have the start of an answer...]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ OK chummers, here's another excerpt from the NYC NewsNet that has to do with my recent troubles with MagnaTech ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf ***Download NA-UCAS-NE-NY-PUB-NewsNet ------------------------------------------------- New York City NewsNet (local) 11-2-53 Morning Edition New Developments in MagnaTech Bombing Metro Police Inc. has provided some new information into last week's bombing of the MagnaTech Buisness Headquarters in downtown Manhattan. Metro investigators have managed to salvage some of the building's computer system. Most of the system was damaged beyond repair, but a few datastore and slave units were recovered. Investigation of the duty logs of the door alarm slave revealed that there was a break-in through the roof door, and that several interior doors had been opened. This was confirmed by the testimony of several wounded security guards, who were on their way to assist in the apprehension of the intruders, who had apparently engaged a security squad in the upper floors when then bomb exploded. There were no descriptions of the intruders since the guards who actually engaged them were all killed in the explosion. Metro also released a preliminary medical report. The report stated analysis of tissue samples of the remains found scattered through the site revealed at least three seperate tissue types that were not from the security force. Although there has been no attempt yet to identify the remains, Metro is confident that there were three, possibly four intruders who attacked the MagnaTech building that night. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***End download >>>>>[ I wonder if they've checked the radar logs from any of the nearby airports and security airstrips. I'm shure that if they had a good decker working for them that the radar logs would have been altered, but doctored records can be detected given enough time. I want to know more about the chopper that Big Jake's friend claims was in the area. Oh, by the way, someone tell Dante that he can feel free to include this clipping in his "underground newsletter"]<<<<< ---Dark Elf ***Start Download ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York City NewsNet (local) 11-02-53 evening edition Decker Arrested in Connection with MagnaTech Bombing This afternoon, Metro Police Inc. acted on information provided by P. Johnson of MagnaTech R&D, and have made an arrest in connection with last week's bombing. Johnson provided excerpts of BBS postings where a decker using the handle "Dark Elf", and then produced documents giving the identity of this "Dark Elf." While BBS excerpts are not admissible in a court of law, there was enough supporting information to lead to the arrest of one Wolfgang von Helsing, an employee of Akaru Inc. Von Helsing denies any connection with the incident, and also denies ever using the handle "Dark Elf." Von Helsing claims that his Matrix alias is really "DireWolf" but admits that it is not uncommon for deckers to use more than one alias. A trial will be held once Metro has collected sufficient evidence. On a related note, there may be some credibility to von Helsing's plea of innocence since BBS postings using the name "Dark Elf" have been made since the arrest. Akaru Inc. also denies any interest in MagnaTech and claims that von Helsing was not acting under a directive from Akaru Inc. or any of it's subsidaries. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** End download >>>>>[ Damm that Johnson!!! He got my decoy, but he's still managed to get my name in the papers!! I don't know how he managed to manufacture enough evidence to warrant an arrest, he should have realized that he had a dummy ID. At least I got even with DireWolf for the time he stabbed me in the back three years ago!!!! He won't get convicted, but he knows I've ruined his rep with Akaru, especially since the warrant read "Warrant for the arrest of Wolfgang von Helsing aka Dark Elf". I think he got the message that I'm not someone you want to mess with. I'll have to settle accounts with P. Johnson next. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[Dark Elf, I'm not the publisher of The Underground. What I did do was to bankroll the group that started it until they get a steady subscription and advertising base. I'm sure they will be happy to print your information, though. And everyone else our there in matrix-land, please feel free to submit thing to The Underground for publication.]<<<<< -- Dante <20:28:14 / 11-02-53> >>>>[ Late last night (or to be more exact, early this morning) me and the boys were quattin' out back of Gastor's Eatery, talkin' 'bout drek. The subject came up about Promeetheus Engineering. I eyeballed Waxer and said "What the DREK is Prometheus anyways?" She just rolled her neck and shrugged her little Elven shoulders. Anyways, the questions been on m' brain all day. If anyone from the East is out there, be a chumm and pass along some knowables about this Corp. M' thanks in advance. Concrete Claymore,03:02:1811:03:53]<<<< >>>>[ Time to grab your girls and double-check your Smartlink folks be cause the word on the streets is that the Night-Knights are planing on reclaiming their turf from the Anti-Bodies. You all remember back in Janurary when the "AB"s bum-rushed the "Knighties" straight out of upper Downtown and in the process geeked 20 gangers and abour 35 civies? Well the time has come for paybacks. -Flank MacMax,03:46:29/11:03:53]<<<< >>>>[ I was caught in that fragging cross-fire. Bloodiest turf battle I ever saw. Those Anti-Bodies really knew how to wield a SMG. And those Night-Knights seemed have slotted something good 'cause they weren't dropping too quickly. -Over Easy,03:52:02/11:03:53]<<<< >>>>[ The Night-Knight's level of Weaponry ranks about a G and their Chrome is somewhere in the BA range. The Anti-Bodies, however rate only a F on weaponry, but the Chrome rank excedes CC. -Lt. Coontz,03:58:48/11:03:53]<<<< >>>>[ Does anyone out there in the Sprawl tonight, have any info on these Go-gang Leaders or where the farg they're getting all the nuyen for the software and weapons? -Maliki,04:03:14/11:03:53]<<<< >>>>[Hoi, chummers, well, while it ain't Seattle, I hadta spend some time in Cleveland this past weekend, and found out some interesting stuff. While the city's not the same as it was in the late 20th century--it just couldn't keep up after British Petroleum collapsed around the turn of the century--the newly complete Rock-N-Roll hall of fame was up there. Ya know, the fraggin' city took 65 years to build the thing? And I thought I was a procrastinator... Anyways, I was wonderin' if any of you folks new anything about this building... rumor has it that there are a couple of wax labels which have some serious problems with the artists enshrined there...]<<<< ArkAngel[09:23:10/11-03-53] >>>>>[ Well now! It seems that there was a chopper in the air over the MagnaTech Building when it went boom. Now the eye-witness claims he saw a Dragon flying overhead, but no chopper. The radar logs I scammed detected a single track with the signature of a modified Yellowjacket chopper, and nothing about a dragon! I suspect that there may have been a mage aboard the chopper. The plot thickens]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:30:13/11-3-53> >>>>>[I dunno, Elf. If Tirandor wasn't there, then how'd he get involved? And believe me, chummer, he IS involved, up to his scaly eyeballs.]<<<<< -Raven <21:29:32/11:3:53> >>>>>[I hate to say this but I too have seen "stealth" technology in such small choppers. Seems to be that the "audio, thermal, and passive masking" have gotten a hell of a lot better then when I last checked. The chopper that I spotted was there drek knows how long. The only way we found it was it hit us with a search light first. That was the pilots first and last mistake.]<<<<< -Harlequin >>>>>[Has anybody heard about the orbital shootout? I just received word that an Aztech satellite was apparently blown out of orbit by a missile launched from a submarine in the northern Pacific. It is not known who owned the submarine OR the missile and the sub submerged immediately after lauch so nobody has found it yet. The sattelite was a classified research spacecraft in low-earth orbit (about 185 miles) and if I read my numbers correct, had a value of 1.6 billion nuyen in adjusted figures. It was launched 2 years ago.]<<<<< -- Dante <23:06:19 / 11-03-52> >>>>>[ Testing...Testing. Terminal emulation verified. ]<<<<< - The Mechanic <13:29:23/04/11/51> >>>>>[ Is it possible that a mage could create an illusion that would make a chopper look like a dragon, at least visually. That's what I suspect happened. A dragon the size of Tirandor would probably show up on some electronic sensors (I haven't found any, yet at least). I haven't ruled out the possiblity that the Dragon is involved, even if he wasn't actually at the site.]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <18:37:58/11-04-53> >>>>[ Last night (or to be exact, early this morning) me and my boys were quatting at the Gastor's and the subject was on Corps. Me chum, Waxer, brought up Prometheus Engineering. I looked at her and said,"What the Frag is Prometheus?" She just stared back and shrugged. If any of you Easterns are out there, do me a favor and buzz back an tell us poor Westies what exactly PE is. Me thinks in advance. -Concrete Claymore,20:08:22/11:04:53]<<<< >>>>>>[I was cleaning up some old logs tonight and I noticed that 'Concrete Claymore' posted almost the exact same posting twice. Am I jsut seeing double or is someone confused. I mean, I know I'm old, but I'm not yet over the hill.]<<<<< -- Dante <21:40:18 / 11-04-53> >>>>[ Any of you chumm been down on East-side Tacoma lately? I was down there two days ago and the place is in shambles! Shops raided, Bullet holes everywhere, it's a fraggin mess! I THOUGHT that the Yaks strong-hold turf, I guess I was wrong. From Kent District to Interstate 5 is nothing but geeked out buildings. I want to know what happened. Was it the Mob? Go-Gangs from Puyallup? What? Dante (cool name) don't you know area? What's going on chummer? -Grey Knight,05:29:36/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>[ I do know that from dusk 'til dawn, good ol' Lone Star drop the security rating from a "B" to a "C". -Hey U,05:33:36/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>[ Loosing a sattlite to Aztech isn't a real problem, they have them raining down on the planet all the time. Like last summer when the Hachet 3 fell out of orbit over Africa (wasn't that nice of the "Azies" to reimburse the families of the 135 found dead in Cairo?!). The odd question on my mind is why was it pointed out over the middle of the Pacific Ocean? (from what my resourses tell me.) Were they looking for something or was it another atempt at physically locking out their Matrix? I don't know and I don't care to find out at this time. -Maliki,06:23:30/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>[ Ain't heard nothing about Tacoma. But then we've been a little busy setting up a new home. Can anybody recommend a nice save place in the Seattle sewers? The orks and trolls don't worry me, it's the corps that might get in the way. I'll round up ol' BodyCount and we'll go check out Tacoma. Anybody heard news of the Bloody Gods lately? Anyone got information on Vancouver? Just checking the nets. ]<<<< --Dulcimer <12:56:36/11-05-53> >>>>[ Double negatives Dulcimer? When's the party at the Big Rhino little human? I do hope your curiostiy and your thirst for revenge don't get you hurt. ]<<<< --Flay <12:58:08/11-05-53> >>>>>[ Hey chummers! MagnaTech just shut down all it's mainframes for "repairs." That includes the mainframe in the R&D center and the systems in all, yes *all* of their production centers worldwide. Magna's BBS postings claim that several of their SPU units have suffered from hardware failure, and are shutting everything down for maintenance checks. Now that's the biggest load of DREK I've ever heard! I think they're just scared that someone introduced a virus into one of their other systems while they were busy watching their main office get blown to bits. Another bit of interesting data, Tirandor the Dragon owns 35% of MagnaTech's stock as of last week, right after the bombing. How he managed to buy up that much stock without calling attention to himself until now is beyond me. I guess I should have paid attention to that 20th century futurist novel entitled "never deal with a Dragon." ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <13:29:37/11-05-53> >>>>>[ Yo, I one of the friends of dulcimer can say if he goes for revenge he will be sure to have the firepower and brain power to back him up. He runs a class ship. a couple of days work and i am set for a month or so, and i know i will watch his back as good as he watches mine. Bloody Gods did you know that your days are numbered, when we decide to dispose of you it will be all over. And far as this party is concerned just let me know when it is, and i know i can cook up some ahh say fireworks.... ha ha ha.]<<<<< --mulatov <1:58:36/11-05-53> >>>>[ Molatov - he spells his name differently everytime I see it, but his marksmanship is never in question. He's the real FIREpower behind BodyCount. Alright you lamers, let's move it. We got some beta-elves to butcher. C-12. Good stuff. Hoi, what's the big idea locating the beta-clinic in Tir? ]<<<< --Dulcimer <15:28:13/11-5-53> >>>>[ With Magnatech stock being so cheap it would not have been hard for anyone to pick up a lot of it; directly or thru intermediaries. ]<<<< --Graft <16:43:23/11-5-53> -Raven <16:03:22/11-5-53> >>>>>[Fraggin' phone company. Sheesh! Dulcimer: I have a place under Renton you can use. No Orks or Trolls, but we do have a clan of vampires living nearby who owe me a long list of favors and would be more than happy to "wine and dine" any unwelcome guests. The last time I hid someone down there, the vamps took care of three APC-loads of Ares sec- guards. If you're interested, I can (sometimes) be reached at LTG# 206 (62- 1527) in downtown Seattle. Whatever you decide, good luck!]<<<<< -Raven <16:22:22/11-5-53> >>>>[Dulicimer is right about Mulutuv...big on the FIREpower (low on braintrust). Just wait a while on the party at the 'Rhino Flay, it's coming soon...we promise. I do know of two safe houses to use if you need them. Anyways..those Bloody Gods might as well change their name to Blood 'n Gore if the BodyCount crew fires up at them.]<<<< -Masque >>>>[ dulcimer - i spell my name different all the time you know that, with as many people i deal with it isn't safe to be known to all by the same name. firepower me? i am not that good a shoot. Now when you talk of c-12 my ears do perk up, any out there have a clue to the chummer who blew up that building in chicago or the one in newyork. I think we would get along just fine. Any body wonder why that kid masque or whatever says i am low on brain power, doesn't he realize i have the best brain money could buy. anyway i have to go implode some elf's, no offense i hope kid.]<<<<< --mulutuv <17:24:43/11-5-53> >>>>[ You have big talk Mulutuv, but one can never hit what one can never see. We will be waiting! -Bloody Gods,17:41:56/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>[ The 'Bloodies' are our bros and anyone fraggin' with them will have to answer to us, the Black Rains. SO DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!! -Jake,17:47:41/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>[ Bodicount, I REALLY suggest you leave these"Bloodies" alone. It is vibed that the Bloody Gods are allied with ten other Gangs. And the Black Rains have five other "bro-gangs" and is rumored to be with the South side Mob. Do an ol' cop a favor and let it lie. -Lt. Coontz,17:56:32/11:05:53]<<<< >>>>>[ As for the people who blew up the MagnaTech Building, I'll know who they are soon enough (unless they were killed in the explosion). Mulutav, I don't like your attitude towards imploding elves, some of them may be friends of mine. Choose your targets carefully Mulutav, I can make your life very miserable, just ask the people who tried to frame me for the MagnaTech job in a few weeks... ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <18:29:06/11-05-53> >>>>>[ since you don't me, i guess i shall have to explain to you the situation. I don't hate elfs. The kid in our party is an elf. I just have a problem with a particular elf go-gang. I am not a (fill in)ist, i beleive in judging on ability not by looks... yes i have been told i don't have the best etiquette in the world, but i do know how to act.. and i don't threaton people that don't deserve it, and so far you don't. So you know who did do the magnatech job? I would like to meet them.... i am sure i could arrange for an equal trade for some info... ]<<<<<<< --Mulutuv <18:47:43/11-05-53> >>>>>[Ooga, ooga, me hade dem dere elfs... don't you mean ELVES, Mulutuv??]<<<< -- Tailhook >>>>>[Hey Harlequin! Rean nice nuke! Thanks for sending it to me. On an unrelated note; has anyone been to Alamagordo, in the Sioux Nation, lately? The Amerinds are putting a LAV through its paces, one that doesn't conform to any known military or corporate design. Anyone have any info? Thanks in advance.]<<<<< -Raven <23:30:14/11-6-53> >>>>[ Coontz, you worry too much. ]<<<< --Dulcimer <08:45:43/11-06-53> >>>>[ PARTY!! PARTY!! ]<<<< --Flay <08:48:02/11-06-53> >>>>[ And the House called in it's markers and the streets flowed red... While the morgue was over run and the the civil engineers were shocked that all the buildings yet stood. ]<<<< --Harley <*GRRR*/*CHOMP*> >>>>[ Lock and load kiddies! It looks like the House is at war!]<<<< --Plasma <08:50:23/11-06-53> >>>>[ No Plasma, not yet. As the Queen of Hearts it is my job to declare when the house goes to war. Our first priority is to find Wildeblood. Although with these boys... well, the world will be seeing Spades. ]<<<< --Singing Scarlet >>>>[Something from the bowels of the account... This is what he wrote: Ka'ge FASTER, SMARTER, MORE DEADLY THAN EVER, THE NEW ULTRA STEALTHY NINJA V3.75 SIG VIRUS. BEWARE...... IT MAY ALREADY BE TO LATE. This is what I thought it was going to say: FASTER, SMARTER, MORE DEADLY THAN EVER, THE NEW ULTRA STEALTHY NINJA V3.75 CYBER-ASSASSIN. EVEN FASTER THAN A COMBAT MAGE WITH AN INCREASED REACTION SPELL LOCK! ABLE TO ENTER AND EXIT BUILDINGS BEFORE THE SECURITY SAMURAI CAN EVEN REACT! BEWARE... GUARD YOUR DATA FILES!.... IT MAY ALREADY BE TOO LATE! Ok, so maybe I have been playing a fixer too long. Maybe I do need to stop thinking of my street samurai as commodities. But I still like the idea! King of Hearts CEO House of Cards Specializing in Information and Rare Equipment "So you want a Force 6 Air Elemental? That'll take 3 days and should pay for my new skillwires." Then there was: Ka'ge THE STRIKE OF THE NINJA, SO FAST...... SO, SILENT....... ALL YOU'LL EVER HEAR IS THE SOUND OF YOUR DRIVE FORMATTING. NINJA V4.01 SIG VIRUS THE STRIKE OF THE NINJA, SO FAST.......SO, SILENT....... ALL YOU'LL EVER HEAR IS THE SOUND OF IT'S WRIST SERVOS BREAKING YOUR NECK. NINJA V4.01 CYBERASSASSIN But times change, and the King is dead... THE STRIKE OF THE NINJA, SO FAST.......SO, SILENT....... ALL YOU'LL EVER HEAR IS THE THROBBING IN YOUR HEAD AS YOUR BLOOD FLOWS ACROSS THE FLOOR. NINJA V6.71 BIO-CYBER-ASSASSIN CODE NAME: "KING OF SPADES" -Dulcimer,00:02:47/10:12:92]<<<< >>>>[yo dulcimer, so silent? all i hear from you is the spinning of those two #$%^&&%&@ #$ F G %^$ G FT% * * (& @# $#@ #$ $% %&&^&^& GHGH GH ^ $GHFGHGH %&%&^ &^%& ^& *&*&( *(**($%#% $#$%$%$#% $#%#$%$#%$#% &*&( ()$ and boy wasn't it fun. --mulutuv<10:36:34/11:6:53]<<<<< >>>>[Hey who did that? All i was trying to say was that dulcimer is really good with %%&&** #%^^&& * $$ % & ()% $%##@ @ ^ &^$% ^#$% $%$# ^%^ [interrupt] sorry for the running of mouth of mulutuv, those drugs he is on are messing with his head. --quick hand [continue] jeez, maybe i should just me quit. --mulutuv<10:39:59/11:6:53]<<<<< >>>>>[There's a Queen of Hearts now?? I guess I've missed a lot since I got myself toasted--literally.]<<<<< --"Southern-Fried Rigger" (aka BlackBear) >>>>>[ You won't get a chance to meet the people who did the MagnaTech job, they won't be around much longer... BY the way Mulutuv, that wasn't a threat, just a statement of fact. I'm very protective of my friends, and anyone who gets in thier way will answer to me eventually. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ Hey DE, Magna's stock took a nose dive yesterday!!! And guess who's gobbled up another 10%, I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count. Yes I mean the damm Dragon!!!! Why'd you ever say you'd cooperate with that scaly double-dealer. He probably sicced good ol' P. Johnson on you just for kicks. ]<<<<< ---Big Jake <15:56:13/11-06-53> >>>>>[ Thanks for the info BJ, Tirandor's got about 45% of Magna's stock. Excuse me for stating the obvious, but he must be going for a takeover. By the way, we all know that Tirandor lives in that old rebuilt Aircraft Carrier Intrepid, I'll bet he's got a few stealth choppers there... ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <16:00:30/11-06-53> >>>>>[ Dark Elf, we have to talk, it may be important. Meet me at subsystem of the Decker's Haven Database (you know the current LTG address of course). You'll want to hear this. ]<<<<< ---<[encypted]> >>>>>[ Now that's interesting. I'd rather know who this joker is, but if he knows the number for Decker's Haven, and is good enough to do all that encryption it's worth investigating. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <16:08:57/11-06-53> >>>>>[Sheesh Dark Elf, _I_ know the number for the Haven. I'll bet a lot of people do. I'll bet that damn DRAGON knows the number. You are getting in too deep, chummer, and if you need help, you had better ask fast because soon it is going to be too late for your friends to lend you a hand.]<<<<< -- Dante <15:20:14 / 11/06/53> >>>>[ Hmmm, for all those talking about "spirits" in the Matrix, the last time I saw BlackBear he was being reduced to a ball of coal by a Napalm Missile. Now that either means that his "spirit" has found its way into the Matrix or someone is impersonating him. I'd much rather it was a jerk impersonating him. Those *I* can deal with. Hey Merlyn, maybe you can help me out on this one. ]<<<< --Dulcimer >>>>[ Hey Humanis, the Coalition of Runners Against Patent Stupidity is coming for you. We don't like the name that you are giving us humans.]<<<< --Boxcar <17:03:48/11-06-53> >>>>>[ Yes, Dante, it does seem th*t securit& at the ^ecker's haven h*s been compro(mised. Someone should %ell Fast#ack to [c--n] at [e] the Numb!r again. Sorr~y for the Drek &n this posting +ut It seems th!t someone sent a p_ant to the Haven` Of cour*e he won't b^ decking #or a while, but he stuck me a glitch in my ASCII edit&r. ]<<<<< [D] at [rk] Elf <18:18:4%/#@-06-53> ***Exec : AntiVirus_V3.41 running........ >>>>>[ Ah, that's better. I didn't have time to ID the drekhead, but his attack utilities were straight off the corp shelf. He told me I should stop asking about MagnaTech, and when I told him to shove it, he cut loose. Well, he used store bought standard utils, but got in a cheap shot before I had a chance to slag him. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <18:27:07/11-06-53> >>>>>[ Hey Elf, while you were off playing MatrixRambo, I spotted a modified yellowjacket chopper landing on the Intrepid. I kicked in my optical MAG-3 Chibaeyes and you'll never guess who the pilot was............. It was that drekhead BobK, you remember him, that rigger that almost bounced a Hughey off the Empire State Building two years ago. He royally botched that escape, and nearly got us killed when the Metro gunships came after us!!! I wonder how a loser like BobK hooked up with a class act like Dragon's Den International. ]<<<<< ---OddBall <18:37:58/11-06-53> >>>>>[Word has it that Magna-Tech, which is in the midsts of a takeover by that dragon, is in the process of preparing an assault against the Intrepid as a defensive measure against the takeover. Has anybody heard about this? Frankly, I have no love for Magna, and could care less if the dragon makes his takeover or not, but the dragon is still a sentient being and I'd hate to see ANYBODY get hurt. So, if you are listening, be warned that Magna is gunning for you.]<<<<< -- Dante <16:03:12/11-07-53> >>>>[ Was anybody around the Space Needle about 2100 hrs. last night? I have to verify something that I saw. About 2045 hrs. I saw a nice Westwind pull up to the front of the Needle, I'm thinking nothing special alot of ritzies come to this place. I look again and it's Cathrine Deburke, Treasurer of the Metroplex, stepping out of the car. Y ou're thinking big deal right? hang on here's the good part. As she's standing at the entrance, three more Westwinds pull up. Out jumps about seven obvisous Body guards. As their securing the area, Deburke waltzs over to the middle vehicle and kisses some guy through the open window. The car door opens and out steps Gerald O'Maley. Yup that's right chummers the Treasurer and the third in charge of the Mob have something going. I wonder how much the trideo news people would pay to have info like this? And I wonder if it's more than physical? One can never tell. -Gargoyle,04:00:09/11:08:53]<<<< >>>>[ Doesn't Gerald only take his orders from Don-James O'Malley directly? -Jackknife,04:03:53,11:08:53]<<<< >>>>[ Naw, Gerald has to answer to Daniel A. O'Malley, James' nephew. And man does he hate that. James is like the Overlord, while Daniel controls Downtown and Gerald control all non-Downtown Mobster activities. -Whispers in the Night,04:09/:47/11:08:53]<<<< >>>>[ Maybe Danny boy would like this information? Nothing more interesting than watching internal conflicts. Especially when it comes to the Mob. -Gargoyle,04:15:07/11:08:53]<<<< >>>>[ I wouldn't do that old friend. Gerald has the name "THe Badger of the North". He is NOT a person one would willingly want to mess with. Whispers in the Wind,04:09:00/11:08:53]<<<< >>>>>[You all might have seen some of my handiwork on the trid last nite. Did anyone see the news report about the dead Western Dragon that was tying up traffic infront of Ares Macrotech's Seattle HQ? That was me... the damn wizworm came outta nowhere, and I gutted it up with my trusty Vindicator that was on my bike... 2 bullets, that's all it took.. man I loved it!]<<<<< --Tailhook >>>>[ My Friend Dulcimer, I have just gotten back from Vancover and didn't see heads or tails of Wildeblood. I did hear acouple of the locals talking about a big guy who was always wearing sun glasses, even in doors. Could that have been your guy? If it is, I hear he's heading south, your way. On to better news, the Salish Council has allowed the formation of the Red Stepps Reservation. This is 10000 square acres of land set aside for Human Non-Native Americans to settle upon. But permission must be gained from the Council Heads and if the applicant has any contact with the Corporations, he will be politely denided. -Adinfinito, 14:47:24,11:08:53]<<<< >>>>[ Ii it my visuals going on my Fuchi-4, or is the Aztech's San back on line? And boy does it look MEAN and BLACK!! Of course when it appeared on the grid, some geeked out Deacker-kid just had to prove how bad he was by approaching the San. I tried to stop the little jerk but it was too late. As I jumped back to Obs Range, 4 Blasters lurched out of nowhere and fragged the punk in a nanosec. Whoever the kid was is probably splattered all over some small room. Not a pretty way to go. Warning here and now people, Do not frag with Aztechnology. -Jackknife,17:03:52,11:08:53]<<<< >>>>>[ Mr. Dulcimer and company, since our last arrangement some 12 days ago, I have receieved some disturbing news. An associate of mine has told me of rumors that three new personnel have been added to the Renraku payroll. Now, You knew the arrangements we agreed upon and the penalty of renigging on deals with me and MY employers. But I can see where ambition does cloud judgement. Please contact me within four days to levey this most unfortunate situation.]<<<<< -Brandon,(18:26:02/11:08:53) >>>>>[ Mr. Brandon, I find the presumption that BodyCount and myself in particular would welch on an agreement to be quite offensive. I did not have any information concerning the targets until well after they were dispatched. I find it unfortunate that such minds are lost to the world, but a job is a job and that's what 'running is all about. I would also be quite disappointed with Renraku security (and I'm sure the 'raku management would be as well) to believe that your organization had resources within its structure. However, I suggest you check your resources again. As per our agreement, there were no survivors. ]<<<<< --Dulcimer <08:48:35/11-09-53> >>>>>[ Whaddya bet a competant decker could slip in and, ... ah, alter *heh* the files which contain the MagnaTech stock information? That'd make for one _uptight_ dragon, no? Well, I'm off to find out!... ]<<<<< --Jock-O the Ever Jovial <08:51:03/11-09-53> >>>>>[ hello there u guys. did anyone other than us notice that there were seriously messed up fellas on the other net? they were screaming about aliens creating decker technology. so what drugs wre they on? or is tehre something serious to this? hm.............. interesting thought. any takers? by the way emi the hotest band of spell-flingers in the known world r looking for a run. again any takers? if u want to find us we're in the book. look us up. chortle. snort.---see ya later!!!!!!!!! ]<<<<< --- brightlight <01:01:55/11-09-53> >>>>>[ Wow! I have been out of touch for a few days!!!! Sorry for being silent for so long, but a bunce of local trid pirates contracted me to do some satellite work. They've got enough connections to keep them on the air for months! You Seattle dwellers should be able to pick them up, look for shows like "I shot the CorpCop" and "Aliens ate my Boss's Cyberdeck", it's some real funny stuff. They're even putting one on at my request, "The Neo-Anarchists Guide to Demolitions." Anyway, I didn't know that MagnaTech was preparing an assault on the Intrepid until a few hours ago, and I've arranged to send Tirandor a warning. I don't really trust that Dragon, but I can't allow anyone to blow him out of the water until I've had a chance to question BobK, one of his chopper pilots about the MagnaTech explosion. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ OH, and by the way Dante, I wouldn't be too worried about the Intrepid, you should see some of the new defenses the Dragon's installed in the past two years!! It makes a battalion of Panzers look timid!!! A few months ago I had the privalege of seeing the Intrepid open up on the escape boat belonging to a bunch of would-be shadowrunners. They must have tried to get something really important, 'cause the deck gunners cut loose with 4 autocannons, and the flight crew was ready to scramble a whole squad of gunships. The little patrol boat lasted about 15 seconds before disintegrating under heavy cannon fire. It was a great fireworks show! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <14:35:04/11-09-53> >>>>>[ The East Coast StockNet has had plenty of experience with deckers altering files. As a result, they're quite paranoid about security. at the close of every buisness day, their system runs a complex set of diagnostics, checking thier files against the financial records of all clients. If the system finds any discrepancies, the operators are instructed to consult non-Matrix records and stage an inquiry. It's a real mess. ]<<<<< ---OddBall <14:53:10/11-09-53> >>>>>[ OK, here's the MagnaTech equation. Start with one underachiving microtronics company, add one demolished office building, a chopper that nobody saw, a Dragon with an Aircraft Carrier who likes to take over companies, and a MagnaTech strike team that wants to attack the Dragon's floating fortress. How could this get worse you ask? Well I'll tell you!!! MagnaTech has managed to find and hire that VatJob assassin Tommy "the dragon" Harada that escaped Metro a few days ago. This has not made the news nets yet, and I'm shure that Magna won't let it get there either. By the way, Magna still hasn't put it's systems back on line. It's been over a week now, too long for a total shutdown. They've probably cut their Matrix connections to prevent intrusions until this mess blows over. Maybe I will take a trip down to Magna's R&D center, It's been a while since I've been in New Jersey. Magna will probably use the attack to cover Harada's insertion into the intrepid, or maybe they've got another use for him. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <15:04:53/11-09-53> >>>>>[ Hey Elf! Ever wonder where MagnaTech has been getting all the NuYen to hire up a small army, a VatJob on the LAM, and operate without matrix access for a week, especially during a takeover attempt. There's more to MagnaTech than meets the eye. ]<<<<< ---Big Jake <15:11:53/11-09-53> >>>>>[Finally heard from the people I put on the Magnatech business. Or rather, from the remaining half of them. Big Jake is right, there's more to that corp than meets the eye. For starters, under their subsidary office in New Y%$&^k is %^&*$#^&(%(&^$*....^*%&#idding! Of more immediate interest to myself (and anyone heading into NAN territory) are the LAVs. They're gone from Alamagordo, and I can't find them. Coincidently (who am I kidding) there are damn few free traders coming into Denver these days. If an^&%*$%^&*&^($%*^$#olitical alliances among the NAN states; if the Sioux have them, who would they be sharing them with? I'd appreciate any information.]<<<<< -Raven <19:05:11/11-9-53> >>>>>>>>[ Heeeyyyyyyyiiiiiiiii oh oh yeah ahhh me have really really important question ahhhh does anyone know why SHACK got rid of Sicky Gooey Soy Pop because me miss me soy-pop they was goooooooddd!!! thank you Spirit ]<<<<<<<< -Crush the lovable<19:13:32/11-09-53> >>>>>>>[ you're welcome love well, you just have to love that Troll ]<<<<<<< -Spirit <19:20:01/11-09-53> >>>>>>>[ i heard more than love you REALLY LOVE him huh you damn TROG lover]<<<<<< -upload <19:30:55/11-09-53> >>>>>>>[ boy ya really don't know when ta quit do ya ya should really learn ta keep you're feelin's about metahumans and everything else quite especially when ya talk about muh friends]<<<<<< -Circuit Breaker < is not a happy camper> >>>>>>>[ my sentiments exactly ]<<<<<<< -Spirit ******** MY NOT SO DEAR FRIEND UPLOAD you still haven't learned have you first I turned you deck pink and then I turned you into a melon when are you ever going to learn if you're going to play the shadows you should aquire a better out look on metahumans ( yes even dark elfs) (like me and Dark Elf) other wise you might find that you body ( or mind) will be in great pain, ( what is left of you depends on who gets to you first, pray that its CRUSH, he tends to be to nice people) You have one last chance ( atleast from me since i happen to be rather busy at the moment, you might not be so lucky from the others though) (beware i have an extremely long and well trained memory, your death will not be qiuck) ************* + NIGHTFOX the world will not mourn you're loss upload >>>>>[ I'll be willing to lay odds that MagnaTech had something to do with Tommy Harada's escape. His showing up on MagnaTech's payroll so soon after his escape can't be a coincidence. Niether can the fact that Metro's medscans didn't pick up all the bioware he was packing. Like Jake said, there's more to MagnaTech than meets the eye! ]<<<<< -- Dark Elf <17:51:42/11-10-53> >>>>>[ Hey, Magna just got their mainframes back on line today. Funny, it doesn't look like they made any modifications tho. Again, I'll say it, Magna couldn't possibly have enough capital to operate without a mainframe. Maybe they've got another backer... ]<<<<< -- Dark Elf <18:08:53/11-10-53> >>>>>[ Yo, too bad most of you guys are in Seattle. You should see all the hardware flying around here in NY. Those rumors about Magna making an armed strike in the Intrepid must be true, ever since Tirandor got back from his "meeting" the Intrepid's flight deck has been running around the clock!!! They've got a squad of those EFA's in the air at all times, and at least three gunships flying. It also seems that the Intrepid wasn't the only boat that Tirandor bought, 'cause he's got GMC Rivrine Patrol Boats combing the harbor. In the past two days the Intrepid has shown enough hardware to level the city!!! People are getting nervous around here! ]<<<<< ---Big Jake <17:08:07/11-10-53> >>>>>[ And Tirandor told NewsNet that his security force was doing training manuvers for the upcoming Desert Wars IV ]<<<<< ---OddBall <17:09:46/11-10-53> >>>>>[ HA! I finally managed to get a hold of BobK, it took a little creative decking though. (So I borrowed a little bandwidth from one of Tirandor's NavSatellites and opened a channel to the commlink in BobK's chopper. Well, according to BobK, he was ordered to drop a senor probe onto the roof of the MagnaTech building (unofficially of course) so that they could get a scan of the building layout, especially of any underground sub-levels. Well, he was about to make his approach when his motion sensors picked up some kind of commotion on the 20th floor. Next thing he knew the building blew up in his face. The Mage who was riding shotgun with him freaked and cast an illusion of a dragon around the chopper (dumb move). Big Jake's friend must have picked up the Intrepid's transmission to "abort the job" when they discovered that something was wrong. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:20:41/11-10-53> >>>>>[ Loves don't ya'all think its strange that the Dragon is training SEA troops for DESERT wars?????]<<<<<<<< -Circuit Breaker < > >>>>>[ I checked out Magna's records department a few hours after they came back on line. It seems that the MagnaTech office did have an extensive underground complex, that extended partially into the ruins of the old subway system. BUT: they also found another set of tunnels UNDER the old subways! Further records searches told me that this was the ancient Pnuematic transit system (an old experment that failed). Kinda makes you wonder what would be living down there since this is the first that anybody's heard of them since the awakening. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <16:54:34/11-11-53> >>>>>[ Hey DE, better get to a good vantage point. Magna just dispatched a couple of APC's and choppers, and guess where they're going. Down to the waterfront!!! It's going down NOW chummer, better get a good seat 'cause it's gonna be one hell of a fight!]<<<<< ---Big Jake <16:57:39/11-11-53> >>>>>[ APC's???? against an aircraft carrier with *lots* of air cover???? These MagnaGoons must be nuts!!!!! I've gotta see this]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:00:07/11-11-53> >>>>>[ Well, it seems that MagnaTech really wasn't ready for a full assault on the Intrepid. They've parked three APC's by the waterfront, in plain sight of the carrier. They've just been sitting there though! for an entire day so far. If they think that they can maintain an extended siege on the Intrepid, they're wrong! That's what the damm thing was made for. They seem to be just waiting, and watching. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <15:56:34/11-12-53> >>>>>[ I found out why Magna hasn't attacked the Intrepid yet. It seems that Magna called an emergency board of directors meeting, and guess who is now on the board of directors.......THE FRAGGING DRAGON OF COURSE. To make matters worse, they've agreed to hold the meeting in the Intrepid's hanger deck, since it's the oly place big enough to hold the Dragon anyway! So all the Magna execs piled onto a chopper and flew out to Intrepid, and have been there all fragging day. ]<<<<< --- Big Jake <16:44:53/11-12-53> >>>>>[ Just think of the irony of this situation, the Dragon's company is very nearly at war with another company that the Dragon almost owns!!!! Tirandor could very well be fighting himself! I suspect that the real battle is going on in that meeting. When the meeting is over, we'll find out if this battle becomes a real life war in the streets. ]<<<<< --- Dark Elf <16:51:53/11-12-53> >>>>>[ I've seen too much crap having to do with MagnaTech these past two weeks. Someone out there must have heard a rumor about where they seem to be getting all this operating capital, especially when thier main competitor owns 45% of the fraggin company!!! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <16:20:53/11-12-53> >>>>>[ DE, you should have seen the bunch of freaks I ran into today. This bunch of psycho-posergangers tried to convince me to worship the "Holy Dragon." These guy's were decked out like something out of a TSR simsense game. They were wearing fragging chain mail and carrying fragging swords like something out of a robin hood trid! I think these fraggers were trying to convince me that Tirandor is fragging God. They seem to be hanging out at Club Dedd in the village, it used to be a nice place, but if these guys stick around, it'll really suck bags. ]<<<<< --- OddBall <16:27:50/11-12-53> >>>>>[ You've got to be kidding.... This Dragon's got his own cult now too!!! Well, anyway, Metro got an ID on one of the people who did the MagnaTech building and died in the blast. It was a Troll Samurai going by the name "Maddog" O'Mally. Maddog was a real hothead. He was good at his job, but had a real bad temper that got him in trouble a lot. He had been getting really sloppy lately and was working his way up Metro's most wanted list because he beat the drek out of every bunch of MetroCops that even looked at him funny. Now the question is, who hired him to do a run on MagnaTech, and what were they after. ]<<<<< --- Dark Elf <16:39:37/11-12-53> >>>>>[Wow is it quiet here all of a sudden. Do I have bad breath or something?]<<<<< -- Dante <22:18:04 / 11-12/53> >>>>>[I know why they are waiting. Hopefully there won't be any bloodshed.]<<<<< -- Dante <00:53:16 / 11-13-53> >>>>>[ In most of the scenarios I have heard of where a new force of leadership has invited all the "powers that be" (a generic term which shall suffice here) to a certain meeting place, usually one where the new leader has control, it is the staging of a coup or mass execution of any opposition. Very Machiavellian, but nevertheless effective. ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <04:00:18/11-13-53> >>>>>[ Well, the infamous MagnaTech meeting has been going on since last night. I don't know how, but Tirandor managed to convince the board to stay overnight somehow. Magna and Dragon's Den security teams have been squared off for almost two days now, and I'm wondering if some rookie CorpCop is going to get an itchy trigger finger and start world war III by accident. Anyway, at about 6:00am EST, another unmarked transport chopper landed on the Intrepid, and some Johnson type I've never seen before got out and was quickly escorted inside. I think we have a new player here! Once this mess blows over, I'm going to find out what's so special about the tunnels under the ex-MagnaTech building. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <15:45:50/11-13-53> >>>>>[ Well, after 24 hours of negotion and a mexican standoff between corporate armies, the ownership of MagnaTech has been resolved. You're not gonna believe what happened!!!!!! One good thing though, everyone who went aboard the Intrepid came out alive, well, almost everyone. After many *many* hours of discussion and dealing, the old board of MagnaTech reached a line they refused to cross, no matter what offer the Dragon made. This deadlock was broken by the suprise appearance of yet another player in the MagnaTech game. I said you wouldn't believe it, but Joseph Yoshida, CEO of Yoshida Technologies in Seattle came in, with a stock portfolio you wouldn't believe! It seems that Yoshida had been buying up MagnaTech stock like a madman, and had prevented Tirandor from immediately buying up the whole company. Needless to say Tirandor was furious (and probably scared the drek out of the Magna people). Well the Magna people started cutting deals with Yoshida, and sold most of the company right out from under the Dragon's scaly clutches! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <18:50:32/11-13-53> >>>>[Wait a minute, what do you mean "almost", who got geeked????]<<<<< ---OddBall <18:53:39/11-13-53> >>>>>[ Well, that was another suprise. It seemed that that VatJob Harada got on board somehow. The only thing I know for shure is that Magna didn't send him! When Magna started selling out to Yoshida, Harada made his move and tried to take out the MagnaTech suits. He didn't get too far tho, Tirandor saw him coming and punched him clear across the hanger deck. His security teams started opening up on Harada before he could recover, and chased him up to the flight deck. Harada took several hits, and was in bad shape when he took a nose dive off the deck and into the harbor. He didn't come back up. I wonder why the Dragon was so hot to kill this guy when he was after the people who sold him out to Yoshida... ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <19:01:17/11-13-53> >>>>>[That was a matter of principle, Elf. No one is killed in my lair unless *I* order it. I would question how you cam by this knowledge so quickly but knowing your reputation, I doubt I'd like your answer.]<<<<< ---Tirandor >>>>>[ You know Dragon, you'd figure that a corp with the stature of Dragon's Den would have thought to put better IC in the security camera slaves! I'm available as a Matrix security consultant, for a considerable price tho, and it looks like you need one. By the way, why did you hire a loser like BobK???????? The guy thinks the city is a big pinball machine and his chopper is the ball! How could you trust someone like that with a gunship anyway? ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <19:09:03/11-13-53> >>>>>[Tirandor, I wanted you to know that the actions of Yoshida Tech were not against you personally. Joseph had been monitoring the situation and felt this course of action was best to avoid any bloodshed. By my numbers, Yoshida Tech now holds 55% of MagnaTech stocks, while Dragon's Den and its subsidiaries hold 38%. While in theory we now run the company, I would hope that we can be partners in this endevour. Joseph has asked me to set up a meeting with you to discuss the future and you should receive some information within the next few hours.]<<<<< Lincoln Howe -- Vice President, Yoshida Technologies <19:17:39 / 11-13-53> >>>>>[Has anybody figured out exactly WHAT that vatjob was doing in this whole mess?]<<<<< Splut >>>>>[Hey, now that this mess with MagnaTech appears to be at least somewhat over, we can turn to a different subject. Does anyone have any idea who this Demos character that has been hanging areound Seattle is? Hell, anyone know _WHAT_ he is?]<<<<< -- Dante <10:50:14 / 11-14-53> >>>>>[ Early this morning around 0218, an explosion went off on the main floor of the Carland Research Institute, a subsidiary of Mitsuhama inc. No one was reported injured, and the Social Relations Executive of Mitsuhama stated that the explosion was purely accidental caused by a gas leak. The Exec declined all other comments. ]<<<<< - Generic NewsTrid [12:29:02/11-14-52] >>>>>[ Fragging agas leak! I'd sooner believe a dragon farted over at the Mitsu lab. I know C-12 when I smell it. I don't know which of the SINless pulled this hit or why, but I have my hunches. There was the matter of a certain characteristic LandRover pulling away from the scene and an Ork at the wheel of a computerized Ares Roadmaster. If you guys are out there, know that I'm watching you and suspect who you are. Stay out of my district, "chummers", or I'll bust you soon enough. ]<<<<< - Captain Grissim, Lone Star Securities [12:35:12/11-14-52] >>>>>[ Grissim, you couldn't catch flies if there was drek on your face. Cut the idle threats, you got drek for a file on us. ]<<<<< - The Mechanic [12:59:50/11-14-52] >>>>>[ Anyone know why Fuchi ordered the hit on Whisper? And what was up with the drek hitting the fan at the Mitsu lab? Did Johnson botch the job on the other simultaneous hit? I don't like it when things mess up my plans -- especially counter productive things to our job caused by the same Johnson. No hard feelings Johnson, just expect a higher price next time you ask for a pro. The deal was agreed upon, and your cred was good. Next time I'll have a couple stipulations of my own... ]<<<<< - The Mechanic [13:04:41/11-14-52] >>>>>[ I got the info you wanted Mechanic. Drop me a line at the Coffee Shop, and we'll deal. ]<<<<< - TeeHee [15:42:17/11-14-52] >>>>>[ Demos may be just another creature like me. Now isn't that depressing? I thought I was unique. ]<<<<< -Gargoyle,{05:58:42/11:15:53} >>>>[ Yo chummers of Detroit, I have just wandered into the area and I am looking for some action. Don't have much in the way of equipment but give me a vehicle and i will do what is needed. I don't know much about my past it is quite blank. All i know is that i am young, ready, and able... so lets run. If you know of a group guys you can leave word on the street and i will be sure to pick up on it... ]<<<<< --Street Boy,{15:54:23/11:15:53} >>>>>{Hoi, chummers, I'm thinking it may be time to change ShadowLands LTG again--if we've got Tirandor, and some wageslave CEO decking into it, then something's definitely wrong here. Sir Sysop, care to do something about this? Ahh well, to the point, anybody remember seeing that version of Dracula that came out back around the turn of the century? I recently came across a flat of it... amazing just how far off they were from the truth, isn't it?]<<<<< -ArkAngel(17:57:23/11-15-53) >>>>>[ Hey team, watch your backs. I hear Hollywood Simsense has hired a hit team to "pay us back" for that turn we paid them a while back. I'm not sure who they are, but they're supposed to be good. Mitsu was none to taken with us either. I'd be waiting for them to respond in turn as well. I say bring 'em on -- I'll give some false info into the bug I found at my place (sheesh, talk about amateur night), and then put some of that C-12 I've got lying around to use. I'll be hard to reach for a few days... Latez.]<<<<< - The Mechanic [19:14:42/11-15-52] >>>>>[ To the Fangs: beware, I sensed negative energies in the Astral while on my last "vacation". I fear it might be a disturbance caused by a certain focus -- nicknamed "the Tiki". I will try to give you advance warning should I sense else. Take heed.]<<<<< - Silverlock, the P.C. [22:43:11/11-15-52] >>>>>[ Ay, Street Boy! You quattin' in the ol' Tiger Stadium? Man, you got guts! Back when '05, when the big one hit New York, the aftershock waz felt way up here in D-W. Well while Windsor waz bein' rocked bad, the only thing that flopped over here was the stadium. 13,000 people geeked in that place, along with some major sports talent. The wiz's say that "spirits" haunt the place, just waitin' for the 7th innin' stretch. What ever the frag that is.]<<<<< -O*Eye,{04:31:37/11:15:53} >>>>>[ This is true, chummers. Residents around the area say they can here the crowds cheering at night. Most of the eastern fan sections are still reasonbly intact. If you're ever bored at night, you can sometimes see the ghosts out on the field and the spector spectators watching. Just beware of the consession vendors, the ghouls will take a bit of you.]<<<<< -Force V,{04:41:31/11:15:53} >>>>>[ Origato, my excellent associates. I have finally received the goods you have requested. For an external micro-tooth transmitter/ear receiver set equivalent to Commlink II: 20,000nuyen. Begging your pardon chummers, but anything less would not be profitable, hai? After all, you have asked for innovative wireless communication units, thus, an associate technician of mine had to become creative. Meet me at the standard place @ 0200, tuesday, and we can make the exchange. Once again, excellent doing business with you, 6-pack. Our paths will indeed cross again.]<<<<< - Benny Hanna, fixer+ [08:02:51/11-16-52] >>>>>[ Ah, the tech is in. Good. Good. Then we can begin with the minor cosmetic surgery implantation. For a dental implant that will be pressure activated and an inner ear surface implant, my surgical fees will amount to say: 20,000nuyen. After all, we want no accidental essence losses, and you're getting only the best hands in the biz. Any clinic time used in recovering will be free of charge -- I'd say 6 hours and you're on the streets. What can I say? You guys have been great customers in the past... Drop by the clinic one by one, surgery should take an hour, as I always have the possibility of other patients of mine dropping by unexpectedly. Good day, gentlemen. ]<<<<< - Dr. Fineous "Fingers" O'Toole [09:15:13/11-16-52] >>>>>[ Hey, have you guys seen the Mechanic around lately? I'll have to cover his share for the gtech tomorrow, cuz I don't think he'll be anywhere where we can get a hold of him if he don't want to be found. You guys better come up with your own cred tho'. Hasta. ]<<<<< - Blacksuit [10:101:11/11-16-52] >>>>>[I found a piece of cement last night that said tiger stadium... said it was built in 1997, so i am suprised that it didn't stand up to the tremors, must have been one powerful quake.. I have heard some screems at night, but i have never seen anything to much out of the ordinary. By the way what was this stadium used for? Anyway does anybody know of a missing super kid? He would be a decker/rigger, and would be about 15 years of age. If so i think i am him, don't know where i am from, or what i have done... all i know is that i want a deck so i can go exploring....]<<<<<< --street boy,{11:56:34/11:16:53} >>>>>[ Sheesh! Yoshida is making the Dragon a partner!?!?!? I bet the MagnaTech boys are really pissed at that one! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <20:06:41/11-16-53> >>>>>[ By the way! Someone made a good point today. I think it's time to change our LTG address. The presence of corp types here is unavoidable, but as a matter of principle we should make them work for it]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <20:09:35/11-16-53> >>>>>[ Hey! has anyone tried getting into Decker's Haven lately? I did this afternoon, and was denied due to system failure. I know that nobody knows the physical location of the database, but keep an ear to the pavement and see if you hear anything about the site being raided. I can have some of my associates set up a temporary replacement, but I don't have copies of all the 'ware that was stored there. Once I get the new 'base setup, send in anything you've downloaded from there in the past few weeks. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <20:14:53/11-16-53> >>>>>[All of this talk about changing the address of this system is distressing. First, nothing printed on a computer system in this format can be used to incriminate a person. Hell, you can't even use it as probably cause for a search warrant or an arrest. I could say "I just broke into Dragon Den's computer and deleted all of the payroll files." The cops couldn't do drek to implicate me in it. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, this is neutral territory. We are all equal persons and beings on here; all a simple pulse in the datalines. I don't care if you are the president of Yoshida Tech or the drekking runner that just raided his computer.]<<<<< -- Dante <19:56:21 / 11-16-53> >>>>>[ Where's the fragging Mechanic?!?!?! He owes me cred! I did the old boy a favor and picked up his tech, but he better not be geeked in some alley, cuz Benny ain't offering refunds. If anyone sees him, tell him to drop me a line. I can't be doing too many chummers these bloody favors. Drek! Oh, and chummers, I scanned for bugs after the Mechanic's last message, and I picked up 2 at my pad. Stock model II's by Fuchi, unless I miss my guess. Keep a handle on it chummers... ]<<<<< - Blacksuit [19:38:11/11-17-52] >>>>>[ Ease up Suit, I've got the cred. You know I'm good for it. And besides, to think that I'd get geeked by those pukin' amateurs is about as real as life in a fraggin' BTL. Led 2 poor saps to pier 12, and geeked the chrome-boy -- standard newbie sam looking for a quick-name. I did manage to just knock out his partner (I probably shoulda geeked 'em both). After some heavy interrogation, I got him to tell me that Hollywood is after our butts. Word on the street is they've contracted the 'killer-star' hit team. I'll do some more digging, but I'm layin' low for now.]<<<<< - The Mechanic [00:11:49/11-18-52] >>>>>[ I've got a sinking feeling that Tommy Harada is still alive. Metro's been combing the harbor for a body, but have come up empty. I think that it would be stupid not to assume that the Komatsu clan of the NY yakuza had nothing to do with his appearance on the Intrepid on friday the 13th! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:41:07/11-17-53> >>>>>[ By the way I DID BREAK INTO THE DRAGON'S DEN COMPUTER AND I TOLD THE DRAGON ABOUT IT AND HE DIDN'T DO DREK!!!!!!! I guess my confidence in the anonymity of this BBS has been restored. ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:45:36/11-17-53> >>>>>[ I don't know weather to hire this "Dark Elf" or have him killed!]<<<<< ---Tirandor >>>>>[ Herr Tirandor, (and you may notice, sir, that Herr is not necessarily translated as 'mister') I would disuade you from having Dark Elf terminated. On the contrary, I would suggest that you consider accepting his offer to upgrade your data security measures. If he is as good as I would speculate, who would be better at creating security than one who is good at circumventing/ defeating it? I am working on two such projects myself--I cannot cite the names, of course, but they have very good reason to have their records air-tight. ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <**:**:**/**-**-**> >>>>>[ Thanks for your concern Dr. Doom, but I'm not that easy to kill. Most who have tried have failed to even find me (or my real identity). Besides, Tirandor knows that I can get to him if I have to, I've been following some interesting leads lately having to do with the MagnaTech bombing (remeber that, most of the world forgot about it when the Dragon tried to take over). When I get something definite, I'll post it (as usual) ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <15:12:17/11-19-53> >>>>>[ By the way, I did some more satellite work for another bunch of trid pirates. This bunch is from the heart of the Tir, and they asked me to fix" a few sats so they can broadcast versions of Shakespeare in the "original language" elven, of course! It seems that I'm developing a rep as a fixer for trid pirates lately.]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ Aw man!!!! Aztechnology changed all the passcodes on their telecomm sats!!!! I think I know why though, when I doctored one of their telesats for the local trid pirates I noticed some encrypted entries in the duty logs. I won't know for shure until I get back in, but I think that telecomm operations are only ONE feature of the Aztech sats. Can you say orbital military platform? I knew you could ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf >>>>>[ Hey, Elf, guess who's not dead yet. Yep, you guessed it, the one and only Tommy "the dragon" Harada. I spotted him down in chinatown, and he didn't look too good. He must have been headed for the nearest clinic, cause he was trailing blood all the way. That's how I noticed him, I spotted a blood trail on the sidewalk and followed it to a limping Tommy Harada. I don't think he saw me, but I'm gonna lay low for a while just in case. ]<<<<< ---Big Jake <17:49:58/11-20-53> >>>>>[ Harada's still alive!!!! We have to find out where that clinic is!!! I need to know who sent him to the intrepid last week]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:51:20/11-20-53> >>>>>[ You mean, those guys in the Tir actually think that Shakespeare wrote all his original stuff in Elven???? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard! Next you'll try to convince me that the tooth fairy really exists!!! ]<<<<< ---OddBall <17:56:03/11-20-53> >>>>>[ You should check the NewsNets before you open your mouth OddBall, take a look at this morning's edition, and you'll see an article on the tooth-fairy murders... ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:58:05/11-20-53> >>>>>[Sorry to drop off like that. We had an unexpected guest, and ended up running off to Tsimshian for a wild weekend of debauchery and indulgement. NOT! Seriously, we ran into an eagle shapeshifter, who enlisted us to go pound some toxic heads. Ran into some biohazards up there, and Isbin learned a real interesting spell. The Illuminati were behind it all. Just kidding, Brodie. Wher we last left off-- we need you to run a supply train for us. I'll give you the details later. And sure, bring your friend- the more we can recruit from contacts, the fewer we'll have to hire. Well, I'm off to go run some serious errands. I have to have all this cyber-junk ripped out and retire, I think, so I'll be out of the picture for awhile. I'll say hi to sis and the clan for you. Just remember, Brodie; NOBODY expects the Bavarian Illuminati!!! BWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!]<<<<< --Flare >>>>>[No problem. And it's not the illuminati. My friend Jew has been informing me of the error of my ways. It's the BROTHERHOOD! They are responsible for all of it! Run away! At any rate, I would be more than happy to oblige. I miss the non-limelight. Much rather be running. You're retiring? Damn! Try to stick around for a while... Jew said he had some questions for you on initiation (Oww! Stop that! I was just kidding! Get off of me! OWohiae4y90u8326qg Umm..Like I was saying. Be more than happy to. And Brodi...I mean that *I* was only kidding about the initiation bit, of course. Good to hear from you again..uh.. Flare! (Yeah... *boot* get up Brodie... and NO more munchkin crackers before bedtime) Bye4now]<<<<< --Brodie <10:49:15/11-20-53> >>>>>[I'm going on sabbatical for awhile. Now that I got sis back, I'm getting all of this metal ripped (gee, I hope not) out of me. Unlike some, I never left willingly. Things aren't the way I left them, here, but who could expect that? The dragon is still around, I think, but no one's seen him in years. My Medicine Chief says that he'll go with me to the city and take care of me after the surgery, which will be nice. It's hard, though, to take orders from someone when I've gotten so used to giving them. See you in about six weeks, if all goes well.]<<<<< --Flare <15:22:23/10-08-53> >>>>>[Brodie? Doom? Maze? They're kicking me out!!! They say they I'm dead to them until I make peace with Wolf! My sister is the only one who even recognizes that I exist, and only when no one's looking. I can't very well pick up the old street-sam position now that I have no cyber. Um, I need a place to stay. Anyone got a place for a useless, wannabe-shaman sasquatch? Right now I'm holding down Gross' Nursery, in northern California Free State. {LAN CFS-22-39-39-6430ZEN} ]<<<<< --Flare <18:30:22/11-22-53> >>>>[ Hey kid. Yeah you. The one hanging out at the old stadium. If your looking for action, meet me at the old north gate at midnight in 3 days. I'll be the one driving the nomad. We'll go looking for ghosts or some thing lower on the evolutionary chain.]<<<<< --Test Drive <17:44:02/11-22-53> >>>>>[ Hey Dwarf! How long does it take you to get from New York to Seattle, anyway? C'mon, the actions about to heat up! ]<<<<< --Boxcar <17:50:23/11-22-53> >>>>[ yo test drive, good to hear from someone... north gate ehhh, i shall be in the place mentioned ready to go.. only one request, if you know somewhere to stop and get me some 'toys' i am in need.... i have heard from another guy around here too, a guy talking about fastballs or something like that, you know him?]<<<< --street boy <01:55:23/11:23:53> >>>>>[ things going to heat up in seatle again... good to hear that boxcar, got the stuff ready for a little bar b q. ]<<<< --snake eys <01:56:53/11:23:53> >>>>>[Brodie? Doom? Maze? They're kicking me out!!! They say they I'm dead to them until I make peace with Wolf! My sister is the only one who even recognizes that I exist, and only when no one's looking. I can't very well pick up the old street-sam position now that I have no cyber. Um, I need a place to stay. Anyone got a place for a useless, wannabe-shaman sasquatch? Right now I'm holding down Gross' Nursery, in northern California Free State. {LAN CFS-22-39-39-6430ZEN} ]<<<<< --Flare <18:30:22/11-22-53> >>>>>[Flare, you know that you always have a place with me. Jew insists that you crash here. (no pun) Come on down, I know that you will be able to sort this all out. If nothing else, this is a change of scenery and people. Come down, don't worry about the lack of cyber. I know how much you disliked it. And you have ample compensation for it.]<<<<< --Brodie <12:35:55/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Why an' the world would you guys want ta come here? Ya got yer Eco-Terrorist, the SAM's (Society Against the Mergance), the HOBBIT's (Humanis Of a Better Biological Ideal Tomorrow), an atmosphere of 35% carbondioxcide, old Ares Street patrols that just LOVE shootin' things, and a government legistration who were personally put there by corporate vote. Take my advice guys, stay home. And if yer already here, stay low, wear a breather and gods' sake don't talk back to the armed security!!]<<<<< 1*I,{07:56:20/11:23:53} >>>>>[ That's great, all we need is more snot-nose punks running around ths sprawl THINKING they're something bad.]<<<<< Dan the Divit,{08:12:37/11:23:53} >>>>>[ Close it Dan, (the man has gotten a real attitude since Ares shot his leg off) Don't mind him kids, D-W is a good enough town for anyone. Just mind your manners and you'll go far. Oh also, if you are from out of town, make sure if you're a spell-chucker to register with Ares in Detroit Central. THey have this little problem with magic, they don't like it unless it's on their side of the firing line. Just a good bit of advice from little old me.]<<<<< Gramps,{08:45:04/11:23:53} >>>>>[ I was not talking to you Kuhltic. I was trying to contact Hick. He agreed to journey from New York and join us in Seattle for some "(not) rare (enough) critter" hunting. Hick, when should we be expecting you? ]<<<<< --Boxcar <08:52:37/11-22-53>> >>>>>[ Kuhltic? Sounds ominous. You the one that wanted to go ghost hunting over at the old Tiger Stadium? Maybe you should meet me 'n the forgetful boy, too. ]<<<<< TestDrive <09:12:43/11-22-53> >>>>>[ Flare, I had not idea that you were experiencing such difficulties...I am heartened that you chose to contact us in your hour of need. But to the problem: Despite the generosity of JEW's offer, I would imagine that you would prefer quarters more tailored to you individual need and tastes? If so, do not hesitate to simply ASK...the arrangements can be made. If you do not have anything in particular in mind, I can have it such that you stay in the same complex of which I (and a certain other individual which will, for the present, remain nameless) am presently a resident.]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <12:57:10/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Oh, and Flare, I was pontificating on the possibility of taking the ... uh, "group" on maneuvers sometime soon. Do you have any schedule conflicts with this proposal? ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <12:58:56/11-23-53> >>>>>[Brodie, thanks for the offer, but I really need to take care of Wolf, and I can't go running down there right now. But, I _can_ use you. I need an escort of sorts, there's some business that I have to attend to, sans bod. Doom, if you can set me up in a secure spot for awhile, I would really appreciate it. I don't know how long this is going to take. I have to find something first, and I doubt that either of you guys could help. Chalk this one up to Mage S**t, Brodie. Doom- The "kids" are all yours for the duration. Take care of them. Thanks guys.]<<<<< --Flare <16:08:32/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Flare, I could find a reasonably safe place for you to crash for a while. The hitch is it's in New York!!!!! I don't think the NAN would appreciate you careening across their protected territory just to get to NYC quickly! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:43:41/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Hmmm, I've never heard of this "Hick" dude, but as a New Yorker, I can give you an estimate on travel time between NY and Seattle. If you go by legal plane, it'll take about a day (counting flight registaration, passenger search etc... but you wouldn't be able to transport hardware or most cyb. Best way to go is taking a shadowflight (but you have to watch out for NAN airspace). This will take about 4-5 hours. I would suggest going by ground tho, and if you ignore the legal highways and speed limits, you can do it in about a week.]<<<< ---Big Jake <17:52:49/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Woah! Dere was dis huge hit dat went on down at da 4th street warehouse. Word was dat Hollywood set up some boys to take out da 6-pack. I tink dey had a mage or sumpin', cuz da hit team had some hostages and had da place set up for an ambush or sumpin'. Next ting ya know, I's hears bullets and grenades and stuff and I's comes running out of my house and I's sees dis landrover pull away. I's don't knows whats went down, but I heard 6-pack took a layover outta town while tings cool off. I'd hate to see what happened to dat hit squad. ]<<<<< - Brutus 'T Gnash <14:44:31/11-23-52> >>>>>[ Yeah, well I heard what went down as well. And 6-pack, I know it was you. I found the bodies and the Mechanic's signature sniper rifle shells. I also found traces of elemental dust, Drake. I had a mage pal of mine check the background aura and there definitely was some hot stuff flying. Oh, we got some blood samples off the floor too. Most matched up with the geeked squad, but we got a line on Ork metagene traces in one sample. How're you feeling Haus? I don't know who else was there, but I know that you guys were up to no good. I just don't know why you chose to "execute" these poor SOBs in MY part of town. I'm telling you, if I ever EVER see your sorry hides again, they'll be nailed to my duraplak walls. ]<<<<< - Cpt. Grissim, Lone Star Securities <15:10:11/11-23-52> >>>>>[ Grissim, you never have a clue about what drek is hitting who's fan do you? If you did, you'd know that Hollywood set up the hit on US. If you did, you'd know that they took HOSTAGES and we barely got outta there alive. If you did, you'd know that we don't "execute" anyone. If you did, you'd start taking a look at the corporate behinds that you kiss so well, instead of hassling us. If you did, you'd know that hassling us just isn't cost-effective for you. I ditched your last two undercover boys without even breathing hard. Why don't you take a real look at what's going on? Maybe then you'll realize who's messin' with who. Until then, keep your sorry butt off the Nets, cuz you're really starting to bore me with your bluster. ]<<<<< - The Mechanic <23:10:19/11-23-52> >>>>>[ It's always those stinking Tir elves behind the stuff anyway...]<<<<< - Blacksuit <23:15:28/11-23-52> >>>>>[ Hoi chummers, Tommorrow's my b-day! I won't say publicly how old I'll be (I have a policy of giving away as little personal info as possible) and I'll be off to do some quasi-legal operations with my team down in the Philly area for the next week, so I will be incommunicado for about a week until the heat dies down some. Try not to piss off the Dragon too much while I'm away, please. ]<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:56:38/11-23-53> >>>>>[ Ahh, a whole week with the Dark Elf away!!! My mainframes feel safer already. No offense my elven friend, I have mixed feelings about your presence and your intimate knowledge of my doings. However, I may have a proposal for you when you get back, we'll negotiate this later. ]<<<<< ---Tirandor >>>>>[ Hmmm, Tirandor has an offer for me? This should be fun. Knowing my luck he'll want me to do something involving MagnaTech!!! I can't seem to get away from that fragging company these days.]<<<<< -- Dark Elf >>>>>[ Well, almost... ]<<<<< ---Tirandor >>>>>[Maybe you misunderstood. I'm with JEW right now. In a certain part of Seattle which should remain nameless. While I have been in con- tact with members of the group in Houston, I may have mis-represented where I was (gee, wonder why? Jew's nemesis corp would like to know:( but I am indeed in Seattle. Ask around. And to make it fairly easy, just remember what I used to do before I ran, and what Jew & I could do if we weren't running. That should lessen the possibilites down to a dozen or so. And yes, we are in the Yellow Pages...(yes, yet another archaic term). Our place should be reasonably secure, and while it may not be specifically designed for you, we have PLENTY of room. Just sold one ...project... and so have more than enough room for you. Call!]<<<<< --Brodie <4:42:55/11-23-53> >>>>>[Flare, what's all this about needing a place to stay? You know that you are always welcome here. I can give you a pretty secure place, if necessary, I can even get "Daddy" to help, but these days I think that I can take care of any "visitors" that happen to show up. Just let me know. We could even put you in your old room in Houston if that is your desire" --Maze <--:--:--/-- -- --> >>>>>[Thanx DE, but the Doctor is on it. Just one word about me moving, or my location, and the Brotherhood will be on me faster than you can say hype-wired-sammi-on-a-skateboard. Besides, I need to find a free spirit in old Los Angeles; goes by the name of Richtor. Any threads on this, chummer?]<<<<< --Flare <18:58:52/11-23-53> >>>>>[ I was not talking to you Kuhltic. I was trying to contact Hick. He agreed to journey from New York and join us in Seattle for some "(not) rare (enough) critter" hunting. Hick, when should we be expecting you? ]<<<<< --Boxcar <08:52:37/11-22-53>> > >>>>>[ Kuhltic? Sounds ominous. You the one that wanted to go ghost hunting over at the old Tiger Stadium? Maybe you should meet me 'n the forgetful boy, too. ]<<<<< --TestDrive <09:12:43/11-22-53> >>>>>[ By the by, Flare, do you have any specifics in mind in your temporary quarters? And I believe that I SHALL take the "boys" on maneuvers... ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <01:33:58/11-24-53> >>>>>[ Uhhhh...boss? Does dat mean we's goin' somewheres? ]<<<<< -- Piledriver <01:34:43/11-24-53> >>>>>[ Jawohl. FALL IN RANKS! JETZT!!! MACHT SCHNELL!!! ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <01:36:30/11-24-53> >>>>>[ Yes, sir! ]<<<<< -- Piledriver <01:37:51/11-24-53> >>>>>[ Oh, and Flare... Maze and I are planning on going down to Texas A&M&M for a special event (The Bonfire), and we will be meeting Izbin there. If you are interested in coming, inform me as such. ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <01:40:13/11-24-53> >>>>>[I'll drive.]<<<<< --Brodie <8:14:00/11-24-53> >>>>>[The little spot will do nicely, thanks. Hold it down until I get back? I'm afraid I don't see what's so great about a little fire. I wouldn't be able to get close anyway. Besides, I have a pressing engagement in L.A. If Isbin asks, tell him I'm looking for a free spirit with a gating power. Oh, and tell 'im hi.]<<<<< --Flare <11:07:25/11-24-93> >>>>[Watch what you say, sirrah, for I too am an Elf. I was born in Tir and take offense at anyone degrading my homeland. Although it is true that our political manouvering makes your politicians look like slam dancers (an archaic term) at a ballet, that is but one small facet of life. Remember who you insult before you do so.]<<<< -Harlequin >>>>>[Critter hunting? Sheesh! Better take some firepower. My last experience was with some kind of paranormal bear. This thing was huge and had me cornered in a building. [They didn't tell me we were hunting something that big, so I only brought a sniper rifle.] It had me pinned up against a wall and a was about ready to geek me when Skids unloaded his .575 Nitro Express into the thing. Now he's got the head mounted over the bar at the Fringe State. That's the last time I ever go hunting with anything less than a rocket launcher. Ya just don't know what the drek is out there these days.]<<<<< --Jake <23:04:45/11-23-53> >>>>>[ A rocket launcher? Now _there's_ an idea! Ought to go well with the miniguns. *Heh*. I assure you Jake that we will have proper armament when we are ready to slay our prey. The "Critters" we are stalking have too legs and fancy themselvs "HOBBITS". See ya at the body banks. ]<<<<< --Boxcar <15:18:44/11-24-53> >>>>[Thanx Brodie, but have asked Jew if he would drive us. You are welcome to join if you would like though.]<<<< Maze<**:**:**/-- -- --> >>>>>[ Dear Mr. Boxcar, After viewing your latest transmission, I am deeply hurt by your misguided violence toward my originization. If memory serves we have never directly offended you in any manner or form. If you are accustom to the bloodshed and crueltality of the Alamos 20,000 of the west, I asure you we are not of that lowest of caliber. I formally invite you to our meeting house, the address is on the LTG 0915 district. Please join us, you are most welcome. I hope after meeting and discussing our stand one-on-one, we will be able to see things in a similar point of view. ]<<<<< Ronald Benkings,{16:51:38/11:24:53} >>>>>[ Don't trust 'em, Box-cars. They may seem like chummer enough people, but behind those smiles are 120% meta-haters. ]<<<<< O*I,{17:17:52/11:24:53} >>>>>[ Forget it O*I, let the newbie get hosed by the jerks! Did you ever bother to check out where the HOBBITs get their backing, or are you that wet behind the Datajack? ]<<<<< Dan the Divit,{17:38:09/11:24:53} >>>>>[ What is so great about a little fire? Flare, there are so many things I must tell you... Although I think I will have Izbin help me on that one.]<<<< -- Doctor Doom <00:47:44/11-25-53> >>>>>[ Dan the Divit do tell. Information has been so tight around here I may just have to visit these ppl just to learn anything at all. Newbie? Dear boy I was running shadows while you were still in diapers. ]<<<<< --Boxcar <11:21:47/11-25-53> >>>>>[ Hick! Are you even on this fraggin' board?! ]<<<<< --Boxcar <11:34:05/11-25-53> >>>>>[ Hmmmm, what was that LTG again? Play time. ]<<<<< --Harley <*SQUISH*/*MAIM*> >>>>>[ LTG 0915 ]<<<<< --Dulcimer <13:24:12/11-25-53> >>>>>[ To all of you who will be visiting relatives on the upcoming Holiday, Glueckliches Dankfest. ]<<<<< -- Doctor Doom <18:16:44/11-25-53> >>>>>[ ArkAngel asked earlier if anyone had seen the near the turn of the century film, _Dracula_, and commented on how inaccurate it was... I have indeed seen it. Not long ago, I embarked on a extensive research project regarding HMHVV infected beings, especially _Sanguisuga europa_, which involved reviewing information from the most diverse sources, and that movie was one of them. Personally, I feel the film was very well done, and I do not feel the inaccuracies detracted from its quality. I am not certain which inaccuracies you had grievance with, ArkAngel, but that will not dissaude me from guessing: The movie was correct in that Vampires can go out in the day, although it is not true they suffer no ill effects, or, for that matter, that they experience something so benign as having their powers limited, as depicted in the film. My studies have concluded that vampires exposed to sunlight have intense allergic reactions, and yes, it does burn, but they are NOT destroyed outright by it. So, it is true that they can be killed by the sun, but not instantly. Further, MANY vampires do exhibit an 'allergy' to Holy Symbols, but this is, in my opinion, largely psychologically-based. My research has revealed that there are vampires that suffer no debilitating effects from Holy objects, but there seems to be a bizarre exception in the case of coming into physical contact with items that have been blessed, including Holy Water. Apparently, (and this is based upon conjecture) these is something vaguely magical about the act of blessing something. (The last phenomena has not, I feel, been adequately researched, and thus should be subject to review.) Anther quality of the vampiric powers I found false was the trans- formation that Dracula experienced when he drained Lucy of her blood the first time (by which I mean that werwolf-like creature). Dracula's comment upon being confronted by Mina lead me to believe that it was being treated as one of the natural states of the vampire (this conclusion may be false, I admit). It is, of course, possible that a vampire could take that form, but it would be via a spell, and I do not see a vampire willingly transforming himself into something so alien to human nature. A wolf, yes, a bat, yes, but a cross between man and beast, I find that most improbable. Another possible inaccuracy implied by the person who posed the question earlier is the chopping off of the head, as per tradition, to ensure the death of a vampire. This prevents the HMHVV creature's natural regenerative processes from coming into play, and thus ensures that they shall not be coming back, so to speak. The last aspect of the film I shall comment on is that the film also implies that Vlad Tepes of Wallachia was the first Vampire, a fact which is not supported by the evidence I have compiled to date. Doubtless, Prince Vlad was a truly bloodthirsty man, and legend has it he was Sanguisuga Europa, but the FIRST? Depending on what and who you read, most unlikely. ]<<<<< -- Darkwatch <23:25:32/11-29-53> >>>>>[Holy Symbols are indeed not a reliable defense. There is no inherent power in, say, a crucifix. In the case of Vlad Tepes, I would guess that his strong reaction to the crucifix was due to some lingering guilt and/or fear of the Christian god's wrath. He was an adherent of the Catholic Church before his "death", and that god is not known for the well-treatment of apostates. The vampires I know in Seattle never succumbed to any silly superstitions, but a water-pistol loaded with Blessed water was QUITE effective. The water was blessed by a Witch, so it doesn't have to be a Christian effect. I will say that real vampires exhibit a far wider range of temperment and personality than the media, past or present, gives them credit for. The water brings up a point not really explored yet, even forty+ years into the Awakening: religious magick. While the Shamanic traditions of the Native Americans may count, neither Christanity nor Witchcraft (and doubtless many other religions) bear any real resemblence to it. And they certainly work magick. The Catholic exhorcism (sp?) ritual is magickal in nature, even if they won't admit it, and no one can deny the power of Wiccan magick. I am not a magician; I would like to hear about this from someone who knows what they're talking about. Comments?]<<<<< Raven >>>>>[ Hoi chummers! Just got back from Philly last night. My week down in the Philadelphia area was interesting to say the least. I'll be downloading an article from the Philadelphia NewsNet that describes some of my handiwork to the next issue of the underground . Anyway, those of you that speak elven should check out the elven version of Shakespeares plays that some of my buddies in the Tir have been transmitting. I'm almost starting to believe that Shakespeare was an elf! The elven translation is full of subtle jokes and multiple meanings. It's really good stuff! ]<<<<< ---Dark Elf <17:06:05/11-30-53> >>>>>[ Now that you're back, I'll be sending you the information packet I told you about last week Dark Elf. ]<<<<<< ---Tirandor >>>>>[ Precisely my point, Raven. As I said earlier, the allergy to Holy symbols exhibited in some vampires appears to have a psychological, as opposed to magical, basis. However, there seems to be 'something to' Holy Water, in that it falls outside the earlier allergy. Vampires who treat Holy symbols with indifference are still affected by it. It appears that there is something about the act of blessing that is metaphorically similar to magic, but I am not certain of that. One further point, this allergy extends to water blessed by mundane priests, a seeming contradiction, and an explanation for which I am at a loss. Further study is required, most certainly. As far as magic and Christianity is concerned, I know that the Catholic Church does practice some magic. A friend and associate of mine is a member of the Sisterhood and a Dove Shaman as well. There are also, of course, active hermetics in the Church, and let me tell you, if there is any priest one should avoid vexing is an Exorcist...very powerful, indeed. This last comment does not come from first-hand experience, you must understand, but from documented evidence. ]<<<<< -- Darkwatch <20:05:57/11-30-53>