From: [t--na--s] at [interaccess.com] (Timothy Toner) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.dc.universe,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.comics.alternative,rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh,rec.arts.comics.vertigo Subject: Re: tyg treatise #4: Good-bye Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:46:56 -0600 Hum. I knew about the "death of the Internet" long long ago, and I'm very much a part of the reason why it died. Oh, it's not going away, as tyg clearly states, but rather it's transforming into something wholly unrecognizable to those who first washed ashore on this green and pleasant land. To a large degree, people like tyg, Maddox, etc. were the pioneers, blazing trails and dealing with the natives. They took the risks and wasted the time, just so us ungrateful asses could get binaries of Cindy Crawford's head on Oprah Winfrey's body. They had dreams, but those dreams were compromised by reality, a reality dictated, as always, by the fool and not the sage. So now they're going off to dimmer vistas, where the risks are less, having consumed so much of their useful energy in a an uncontrolled burn. And in truth, they're leaving a community better left in the dust. When they first came, Usenet held infinite promises. It was readily malleable, and survival was dictated by learning its laws fast. If you were an asshole, then everyone would just killfile you, and route around the damage. If you didn't play, you didn't play. And then came people like me. People who loved the concept, but didn't give two shits about learning perl and whatnot. We were bright and imaginative, and we wanted it all spoonfed to us. But it was a facade, because all our bright dreams had no substance, no hard coding experience, no infinite patience that a 400 baud modem can instill. We took the fruits of the pioneer's labors, and built saloons and whorehouses, trying to emulate the hidden world "out there" with one far from prying eyes. The less people learned how to use a killfile, the more tolerant of the assholes we became. Eventually we were invaded by huge commercial providers who had Terms of Service to hold you back _inside,_ but nary a killfile to keep you in line outside. So with 10 free hours, they began the erosion and the creation of something new. Not better, and perhaps not worse...just new. So now we're at the current state. As bandwith grows, more and more people will rush online, craving moderation of some sort, as protection from the assholes who stalk the Net. We'll need the insight of the pioneers, and like the pilgrims headed for Plymouth, we'll bring the journals of John Smith for insight. Although we could invite the good captain along for the ride, he's too expensive, and frankly he's not one of us. And like the pilgrims, we'll suffer for it. Terribly. But someone will keep her head, and keep the signal flowing. Tyg, I won't miss you. I can imagine that your taste in comics and mine diverged a decade ago. Most of your on-topic posts, your ability to call up invaluable bits of Silver Age trivia have held no interest for me. That's of course _my_ loss. And as I've said in the past, your impassioned defense against OM is pointless. He won't go away, and you won't win. But drawing back to the original analogy, this conflict was inevitable. You're two mountain men fighting over a dispute decades old that the people in town frankly don't give a damn about, but it's not their concern, right? I will miss a sense of wonder you brought to the newsgroup, often lost in your tone. You're an icon of a simpler time, and you deserve a break. But this is a brave new world, and our dreams are made of sterner stuff. So much our loss. "All evil requires for total victory is for men of good character to do _nothing._" -- Timothy Toner ------ School Librarian ------ thanatos @interaccess.com Revenimus, MF!