From: [k--ar--s] at [cc.memphis.edu] (Ken Barnes) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Gun Control & Racism Date: 18 Jun 94 20:33:16 -0500 [S I Marvell] at [dcs.warwick.ac.uk] (Storm) writes: > [a--y--r] at [nmsu.edu] (Nosy) writes: >>< There is no relevance. It has no relevance. No relevance at all. >> Wrong. History is replete with cases where "gun control" >> was advocated by white people to "keep the wogs in their >> place". > If you are going to make brash statements, such as this one, I suggest to > back them up with some documentry evidence. It's unsubstantiated comments > like these which cause major flame wars, such as this one. >> In the US it was part of the Black Codes. From "Act to Regulate the Relation of Master and Apprentice Relative to Freedmen, Free Negroes, and Mulattoes": "Sec. 1 Be it enacted... That no freedman, free negro or mulatto, not in the military service of the United States government, and not licensed to do so by the board of police of his or her county, shall keep or carry fire-arms of any kind, or any ammunition, dirk or bowie knife, and on conviction thereof in the county court shall be punished by fine, not exceeding ten dollars, and pay the costs of such proceedings and all such arms or ammunition shall be forfeited _to the informer;_[a white guy,_emphasis added_-KB] and it shall be the duty of every civil and military officer to arrest amy freedman, free negro, or mulatto found with any such arms or ammunition, and cause him or her to be committed to trial in default of bail... Sec. 2 .... If any white person shall sell, lend, or give to any freedman, free negro, or mulatto any fire-arms, dirk or bowie knife, or ammunition, or any spiritous or intoxicating liquors, such person or persons so offending, upon conviction thereof in the county court of his or her county, shall be fined not exceeding fifty dollars, and may be imprisoned, at the discretion of the court, not exceeding thirty days. [...] Sec. 5 .... If any freedman, free negro, or mulatto, convicted of any of the misdemeanors provided against in this act, shall fail or refuse for the space of five days, after conviction, to pay the fine and costs imposed, [by reason of poverty, for instance... -KB] such person shall be hired out [read enslaved -KB] by the sheriff or other officer, at public outcry, [at auction, in other words -KB] to any white person who will pay said fine and all costs, and take said convict for the shortest time..." --Laws of Mississippi, 1865, at 165 (29 Nov. 1865) >> In the US *today* it's a sure bet that the Chicago >> handgun ban is applied quite differently to black men >> vs. white women. > > Again, can you back this up, or is this argument going develop into a > sexist/racist flame war? > > ~Storm See above. Gun control works. Just ask the Gestapo, the KGB, and the KKK... -- **x*dna Ken Barnes, LifeSci Bldg. | [k--ar--s] at [msuvx1.memphis.edu] *(==) * The University Of Memphis | [75320 711] at [compuserve.com] * \' * Memphis, TN ____________________________________________ *(=)*** Big Bubba Is Watching You! "Wounding one's head with daggers is not in Islamic tradition... We should not do things that would make us appear as a superstitious and illogical group." --Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Tehran, 6/10/94