From: [a--y--r] at [nmsu.edu] (Nosy)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Massacre Specifics (Was Re: VIDEO OF FLAME THROWING TANKS EXISTS)
Date: 13 Sep 93 15:43:41

	Ah, where to begin. Shall we begin with the BATF's
	application to exempt their internal investigation
	of the Waco 'raid' from the Freedom of Information Act?
	Isn't it a bit odd that the ATF doesn't want you to 
	know what their own investigation turns up?
	The pathetic affadavit that ATF used to justify
	their search warrant has been posted multiple times;
	did Blask miss reading it every single time?

	The fact that the ATF had been planning this raid
	for months and just happened to time it as the
	bureaus budget came up for hearing...did Blask
	miss that as well? The fact that ATF had been
	hit with allegations of sexual harassment and
	certainly would want to change the subject;
	did Blask miss that as well?

	Turning to the FBI, I repost this information:
	
	"In situations where it is desired to drive a mob from an
	area, the use of CS may hamper the movements of the rioters
	because of the rapid and severe onslaught of symptoms".
	Source:	Thomas Swearengen, "Tear Gas Munitions", Library
		of Congress 64-25749

	Please note that Swearengen, a standard reference on this
	subject, is writing about people *outside*. He notes that
	a gas-immobilized person could receive a lethal dose
	"through his own helplessness"; it is obvious that the
	concentration of CS was much higher inside the building.

	The previously	quoted source on tear gas is readily
	available. The above source on industrial materials
	is readily available.

	So FBI introduced into a building a gas that can 
	immobilize and even kill adults *in the open*;
	does this sound like a compound that might well
	immobilize and kill children *inside a building*?

	Now, the question is asked, "what about the gas masks". 
	FBI admitted in the first day after the massacre
	that they mixed acetone with the CS in order
	to defeat the gas masks known to be worn by some
	adults in the compound. Notice that no mention
	is made of the children, who had no gas masks.

	But wait, there's more; it is no secret that when 
	nitriles such as CS decompose due to combustion 
	they produce CYANIDE gas. 
	Source: "Dangerous Properties of Industrial 
	Materials", N. Irving Sax, ISBN 0-442-27373-8
	
	It was known that there were open flames in
	the building in the form of lanterns and
	cooking stoves.

	*CS mixed with acetone is introduced into the building
	 in very high concentrations.
	
	*CS can immobilize or even kill adults in the open,
	 let alone children in a building.
	
	*CS produces cyanide gas as a byproduct of combustion.
	
	*Acetone is a flammable compound.
	
	*There were known to be open flames in the building.


	No doubt Blask "missed" this information as well.
	
	Now, here's a challenge for Blask: the ATF claimed
	that the BD's were converting inert grenades to
	live explosives. Where are these converted grenades,
	why hasn't ATF been able to find them?

	ATF claimed that the BD's were converting semi-auto
	firearms to full auto. Where are these converted
	firearms and why hasn't ATF been able to find them?

	Can Blask answer these questions, or is he just
	blowing the government's smoke for them?