Newsgroups: sci.med.psychobiology From: [s--sw--s] at [hotellng.unx.sas.com] (Warren Sarle) Subject: Re: COCAINE, ADDICTIONS Cc: [MIH H C] at [CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU] Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 23:35:10 GMT In article <[94219 182436 MIH H C] at [CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU]>, Michael Harvey <[MIH H C] at [CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU]> writes: |> ..., where do these studies |> get thier data from? Since AA keeps no record of membership, and |> is not the same as hospital programs, how are these results |> obtained? I am not saying I don't believe its possible, I just |> want to know how it was done. In Ditman et al. (1967) "A controlled experiment on the use of court probation in the management of the alcohol addict", American J. of Psychiarty, 124, 160-163, alcoholics convicted of driving while intoxicated were randomly assigned to 3 groups: AA, an alcohol clinic, and a non-treated control group. In the follow-up period, the control group had the fewest rearrests (60%), followed by the clinic (68%), with AA coming in last (69%). I do not have the paper or any secondary references handy and I don't recall other details, such as whether the differences were statistically significant. At the time of Miller and Hester's review there was only one other scientifically valid study of AA's effectiveness, reported in Brandsma, Maultsby and Walsh (1980) _The Outpatient Treatment of Alcoholism_, University Park Press, which also found that AA had no higher an effectiveness rate than an untreated control group. I have no details on that study. |> The quote actually reads "our treatement", why does that=AA? Because Vaillant was studying AA. -- Warren S. Sarle SAS Institute Inc. The opinions expressed here [s--sw--s] at [unx.sas.com] SAS Campus Drive are mine and not necessarily (919) 677-8000 Cary, NC 27513, USA those of SAS Institute.