The only two activities where the participants are called users are drugs and computers.--Overheard at IETF
It takes, of course, all kinds. Everybody knows that. But why is there always someone who needs to prove it?
From: Name Deleted to Protect the Neuron Impaired Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: need drugs Date: 17 Jun 1994 21:01:01 GMT I am from Colorado and i need drugs. If you are from the col. sprgs./boulder/denver area, please write me and give me a list of somje drugs and prices. (amphetamines, kind buds, opium preffered). Thanks. IM NOT A COP.
Oh sure, hes not a cop. Even cops arent that stupid. Did someone actually send him drugs? Who knows? This is the Internet, after all. And the guys not completely baked. He asks for opium rather than its more dangerous derivative, heroin. What he got, however, at least publicly, was a good bit of flames.
From: jshorey@netcom.com (John Shorey)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: need drugs
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:12:30 GMT
Name Still Deleted. But anyone on alt.drugs can tell you. wrote:
: I am from Colorado and i need drugs. If you are from the col.
: sprgs./boulder/denver area, please write me and give me a list of somje drugs
: and prices. (amphetamines, kind buds, opium preffered). Thanks. IM NOT A COP.
Ill be sure to do that as soon as monkeys fly outta my butt...
--
jshorey@netcom.com
I did not see any flying monkeys before the Freenet Twins, Jennifer and Julie, joined in:
From: jennyk@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Jennifer A. Kieval)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: need drugs
Date: 19 Jun 1994 15:57:25 -0400
jshorey@netcom.com (John Shorey) writes:
>Boy is he going to be pissed if I miss one of these and Mom sees wrote:
>>I am from Colorado and i need drugs. If you are from the col.
>>sprgs./boulder/denver area, please write me and give me a list of somje drugs
>>and prices. (amphetamines, kind buds, opium preffered). Thanks. IM NOT A COP.
Im a loser, baby... so why dont you kill me...
fuckin DORK.
_
A moments insight is sometimes worth
a lifes experience.
-O. W. Holmes (1809-1894)
Nice quote. Oliver, smarter than the average Internet user, said that after contemplating climbing to the highest building in Maines capitol and screaming for whiskey. A moments contemplation and he decided that the dry state wasnt quite ready for such a move.
From: julie94@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Julie Burton) Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Re: need drugs Date: 19 Jun 1994 17:42:59 -0400 jennyk@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Jennifer A. Kieval) writes: >jshorey@netcom.com (John Shorey) writes: >>_Dont know why I care enough to delete his name. He didnt;_ wrote: >>>I am from Colorado and i need drugs. If you are from the col. >>>sprgs./boulder/denver area, please write me and give me a list of somje drugs >>>and prices. (amphetamines, kind buds, opium preffered). Thanks. IM NOT A COP. > > Im a loser, baby... so why dont you kill me... > > fuckin DORK. I would have to agree. I mean, reallllllyyyy....... fuckin DORK.
In fact, its pretty easy to buy drugs on the net, and nerds and geeks have the monopoly. You just have to know where to look. A couple of student techies at the Rochester Institute of Technology wired a drug dispenser into the infobahn, although it is, of course, only useful for people in their own Computer Science dormitory.
This drug machine has five slots, though each only serves caffeine (od). You can get an assortment of beverages. Classic Coke and Jolt are always available. Theres also a gambling option for those who are broke or cheap: if any of the slots are empty, you can tell the Coke Machine to dispense the mystery drink, and the cost is reduced by the number of slots that are drug-free. Empty, that is. Youll get something from one slot, at random, but it might be an empty slot, and then youre out of luck. Even worse, it might be from the Mystery Diet Slot.
You can even tell it to delay the drug drop, so that the can doesnt drop into the tray until you walk into the room. The machine doesnt accept money: it debits from each dorm members account. So if youve got a good account, you can drop a can from anywhere. The longest delay so far has been from Arizona. It is unknown whether or not the user arrived in time.
No matter where you are, if youre on the Internet and feeling lonely for the RIT Computer Science House, you can pull up a picture of the CSH Coke Machine, and know how many drinks remain, and what they are. They eventually plan to incorporate this machine as part of a computerized role-playing game. Deep inside the bowels of the dungeon, you come across a mysterious potion labeled Coke... Is it Classic or Cherry? *plop*
Their work was so impressive that they were donated a Coke™ machine a year later to replace the one theyd dragged out of the trash. If youd like to view this infobahn roadside attraction, you used to have to access a telnet connection and finger graph@drink.csh.rit.edu. You dont even know what that means, do you? Its easier today, but I cant tell you. That would be aiding and abetting an interstate drug transfer.
Oh, all right.
The URL for the coke machine is http://www.csh.rit.edu/projects/drink.shtml. URLs, Universal Resource Locators, are infobahn addresses that computer programs such as the various children of mosaic can understand. They arent really meant for humans, but the geeks have picked it up as their own lingo.
Drink up. But dont let the DEA see you.
Speaking of whom, rumor has it that theres an ftp site somewhere outside of the USA where you can download pictures of narcotics agents. Hey, why not? Its good to know who your clientele is, and law enforcement always pays top dollar.
Meanwhile, there are some parents worried that they might succumb to the lure of the net and buy alcohol for their children. And theyre so weak theyll do it on camera.
Thats what seems to have Maya Moshers dad sweating nights. He succumbed to his weakness for Tom Brokaw. When a box of beer arrived for Maya, he said, Just what a ten-year-old might want. He was trying to make the point that its too easy for children to order alcohol on the net--but hes the one who bought it! Perhaps its too easy for children to convince their parents to order alcohol?
It is at least as hard for children to order via the net than it is to order via standard postal mail. Harder, in fact: Anyone who knows how to lick a stamp can order alcohol through the mail via a postcard. It takes technical geek skill to order alcohol through the mail via the Internet.
It is, of course, impossible for a kid to order alcohol through the mail, Internet or not, unless they have their own postal address and credit card. All that Mayas father was proving was that he doesnt care enough about his daughter to pay attention to the mail shes receiving. The box had her name on it because he asked the company to put it there. But it still had his address, because it is still his house. When the box of booze arrived at his door, did he simply hand it off to the kid and tell her to drink up for the cameras?
The Internet is great at distributing subversive words and pictures. But it still sucks at distributing booze and other controlled substances. Until we can get Captain Kirks Internet Transporter working, anything real still has to go through the post office.
Shapes and colors. The drugs--computers--are taking effect, despite the finding of a trio of cyber psychologists that computer-mediated communication is not physiologically arousing. (?) They must have missed alt.sex.stories. Librarians have always feared the occasional splooge in the stacks, and now computing staff face the same dangers. Computer supervision is no longer an easy task involving snorting cocaine and playing Moria adventures until dawn. The old weapons were swords and pikes; the new, Lemon Pledge and Bounty, the Quicker-Picker-Upper™.
That the Internet is a drug--and an arousing one--is so unquestionably true that its probably wrong. The Internet certainly sees a lot of talk about drugs. There was even a proposal by a British drug writer to start a Journal of Drug Experiences to record the experiences of drug use for posterity.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs From: davidm@aic2.act.crime.oz.au (David McDonald) Subject: JOURNAL ON DRUG EXPERIENCES Peter McDermott asks if we think it is worth considering the development of an electronic journal concerned with the real life experiences of drug users. He argues that academics are too often working on information far removed from the experiences of users. Well, I am an academic working in the field of currently illicit drugs. While I have contact with current and past users, the range of users that any one researcher can interact with obviously is limited. I, for one, would be an appreciative user of such an electronic journal. To give an example, Special -K is new in Australia and little known. To be able to tap the experience of users (as has already occurred through alt.drugs) would be very helpful. I support Peters suggestion. Looking forward to hearing others views. David McDonald Australian Institute of Criminology
This proposal was floated on alt.drugs and may have been the forerunner of the great alt.drugs split war of 1994. If the Internet is a drug, the threat of withdrawal from alt.drugs is enough to cause violent convulsions. At its high point, there were a dozen groups proposed as children of alt.drugs:
Not including alt.drugs itself, which would presumably stay around to catch drug-related discussion that doesnt fall into any of the above categories. And I have to wonder what the difference was meant to be between the proposed alt.drugs.politics and the already existing talk.politics.drugs. Not to mention rec.food.wine, alt.beer, and alt.drugs.caffeine. When we noticed that things were getting out of hand, then they really started getting out of hand.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: burchell@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeff Burchell
Subject: PLEASE READ! Regarding new alt.drugs.* newsgroups
peter@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) writes:
>The discussion on how and why we split alt.drugs seems to be
>getting out of hand with all kinds of people wanting to set
>up groups, and discussions taking place in a whole load of
>threads.
Agreed. Im doing a lot of work on this, at it seems like some of it is
being duplicated, or even stepped upon (i.e. whoever posted a RFD regarding
rec.drugs.*, is now on my shitlist. They should have at least contacted me
first.) If you dont like the way Im doing things, then tell me about it,
but dont go over my head, please, at least without my permission.
-Jeff
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Jeff Burchell burchell@cats.ucsc.edu toxic@phantom.com
And, in a similar fashion to the ancient locust, the advertisments
fell upon the USENET causing great
People take things seriously when they volunteer to organize anarchy.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: lewis@aera2.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ! Regarding new alt.drugs.* newsgroups
burchell@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeff Burchell) writes:
>Agreed. Im doing a lot of work on this, at it seems like some of it is
>being duplicated, or even stepped upon (i.e. whoever posted a RFD regarding
>rec.drugs.*, is now on my shitlist. They should have at least contacted me
>first.) If you dont like the way Im doing things, then tell me about it,
>but dont go over my head, please, at least without my permission.
Go over your head on Usenet? I just wanted to get the official RFD
started. Things move much slower on news.groups than alt.config.
--Keith Lewis klewis@mitre.org PGP key available.
.. pH balanced for your decisions, your life. -- Proctor & Gamble
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
When the silliness came in, the split was officially dead. (!)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config From: lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) Subject: Re: PLEASE READ! Regarding new alt.drugs.* newsgroups the only think i dont like about rec.drugs.* is that i already waste enough time on alt.drugs, and i couldnt handle two heirarchies.... it could wind up splitting resources... (then again rec.drugs.sick.of.lamont might not be a bad idea -- 70+ posts in the last fucking week?!?!?! alt.drugs.usenet.abuse...) -- Lamont Granquist (lamontg@u.washington.edu) And then the alien anthropologists - Admitted they were still perplexed - But on eliminating every other reason - For our sad demise - They logged the only explanation left - This species has amused itself to death -- Roger Waters
Usenet abuse or not, he got at least one vote:
Newsgroups: alt.drugs From: peter@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) Subject: Re: PLEASE READ! Regarding new alt.drugs.* newsgroups lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes: >the only think i dont like about rec.drugs.* is that i already waste enough >time on alt.drugs, and i couldnt handle two heirarchies.... it could wind >up splitting resources... > >(then again rec.drugs.sick.of.lamont might not be a bad idea -- 70+ posts in > the last fucking week?!?!?! alt.drugs.usenet.abuse...) Oh, I dunno. Any votes for alt.drugs.netgod-lamont-granquist? Count mine as 1. ;-) --peter +--------------------------+--------------------------------------------- | Lifeline are to be commended for taking this approach, | even if some of the material sails close to the edge of | an Egon McDermott Good Drug Guide. | Harry Shapiro, Head of Publications, ISDD.
In the end, the split did not come to pass, probably because we talked ourselves to death.
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config,alt.hemp Subject: Re: <<<RFC: ALT.DRUGS SPINOFF GROUPS>>> Official discussion Date: 8 Jun 1994 13:30:30 -0500 Let me repeat: VOTES ON ALT.GROUPS ARE MEANINGLESS. talking about voting for an alt.group labels you as a fledgeling newbie. Discuss, by all means, and express opinions, but when it comes down to it no one is bound to do ANYTHING wrt alt.groups.
Somebody, somewhere, created alt.drugs.marijuana, long after the discussion died down at my node, but it hasnt propagated and it gets only a couple of messages a week, compared with the continuing hundreds a day in alt.drugs.
Finally, when it became obvious things were going nowhere, we made it official: things went nowhere.
From: murple@ukelele.gcr.com (Murple) Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.hemp,alt.config Subject: Re: <<<RFC: ALT.DRUGS SPINOFF GROUPS>>> Official discussion Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 16:50:18 CET lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes: >ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS THING OR SIT ON OUR BUTTS AND LET IT DIE?!?!?!!? >we now return you to your regularly scheduled inane threads on drugs... I vote that we sit on our butts and let it die...Im still against splitting up alt.drugs.
The voter has spoken, the bastard.